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Moody’s warns US credit rating at risk due to large fiscal deficits causing ‘negative’ outlook
Nypost ^ | 11/10/2023 | Reuters

Posted on 11/10/2023 5:39:25 PM PST by ChicagoConservative27

Moody’s on Friday changed its outlook on the US credit rating to “negative” from “stable” citing large fiscal deficits and a decline in debt affordability.

The move follows a rating downgrade of the sovereign by another rating agency, Fitch, earlier this year, which came after months of political brinkmanship around the US debt ceiling.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: credit; debt; deficit; donate; inflation; moody; negative; outlook; tightwad
Stable my butt
1 posted on 11/10/2023 5:39:25 PM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

“months of political brinkmanship”

My ass. That’s the least of our worries. 70 years of out-of-control Congresses buying votes is the problem. We passed $1 trillion in debt around 1988. Today it’s $34 trillion — THIRTY FOUR TIMES higher. We are paying $1 trillion in interest every year for the first time in the nation’s history.

Economic collapse is around the corner.


2 posted on 11/10/2023 5:49:38 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

What I remember is that some time ago one the credit agency down graded the US and took away their AAA rating.


3 posted on 11/10/2023 6:00:02 PM PST by Revel
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“Moody’s expects federal interest payments relative to revenue and GDP to rise to around 26% and 4.5% by 2033, respectively, from 9.7% and 1.9% in 2022.“
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Lifted from another source, but that sentence should send chills down the spines of everyone relying on government money to live.

The interest cost is going from 9.7% of revenues to 26%.

It’s going to be difficult to recover from that without massive tax increases or massive money printing. Both of which would destroy our economy.

Biden isn’t fixing this. Trump isn’t going to fix this. Anyone who thinks that is delusional, or they are not paying attention. The entire legislative and executive branches of our government must be overhauled and changed. We cannot use “business as usual” to fix this.


4 posted on 11/10/2023 6:29:31 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Whaddya know. Last time the credit rating dropped it was under Obama. Now Biden. Hey! They are both Democrats! Think there is a connection?


5 posted on 11/10/2023 6:32:13 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: ChicagoConservative27

“Don’t Cry for Me, Argentina”, with Madonna

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD_1Z8iUDho

Who will be our Peron?


6 posted on 11/10/2023 6:32:59 PM PST by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals)
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To: Vermont Lt
The Federal Government now spends more money on Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, interest on the National Debt, and defense than it collects in taxes. So without cuts to those categories, even if the government totally eliminated all other spending, the budget still wouldn't balance.

These massive deficits in spending every year, by every president of late, has kept the system barely functioning. The only 'growth' we get now has been massive deficits and debt, and Republican and Democrat voters show no interest in stopping that spending.

7 posted on 11/10/2023 6:34:36 PM PST by Theoria
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To: Beowulf9

Perhaps that’s the only time the gop act like there is a problem and try doing a shutdown. They don’t care any other time, look at the Trump and Bush spending under them.


8 posted on 11/10/2023 6:36:13 PM PST by Theoria
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To: Revel

That would be Fitch, I believe.


9 posted on 11/10/2023 6:48:23 PM PST by fhayek
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To: ChicagoConservative27

At this rate Operation Cloward & Piven should be complete in the very near future.


10 posted on 11/10/2023 7:32:41 PM PST by patriot torch (..)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Curiously, the US Dollar (USD) was trading at $108 against a basket of foreign currencies just a week or two ago.

The forty year USD high is $120, which we hit in 1999, which is the last time the USA federal budget had more income than spending, probably since the 1960s.

Anyway - my point is that professional currency traders - who have their own money or jobs at risk - seem to be much more confident about the value of the USD than the credit rating agencies do.

11 posted on 11/10/2023 9:26:55 PM PST by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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To: zeestephen

Well, the credit rating looks forward. It depends on ability to pay, and the future change on rates. A 10 year bond at 5 % isn’t a good deal if a year from now it’s 7%. Also, if the lender defaults on all or part, that would be bad as well.


12 posted on 11/10/2023 9:31:23 PM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Soon China will be left holding the bag of worthless IOUs.


13 posted on 11/11/2023 5:40:52 AM PST by Wdempsey (Democrats and slinkys.. Both useless but fun to push down stairs.)
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To: Wdempsey; All
Soon China will be left holding the bag of worthless IOUs.
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Also the Social Security Trust Fund, private pensions. mutual funds, 401k's, savings bond holders, etc, etc.. (China currently holds less than $1 trillion in US debt and has been reducing it's position lately).

https://www.pgpf.org/blog/2023/05/the-federal-government-has-borrowed-trillions-but-who-owns-all-that-debt

https://www.thebalancemoney.com/who-owns-the-u-s-national-debt-3306124

14 posted on 11/11/2023 5:58:46 AM PST by Drago
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