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Behind the Curtain: Tearing apart Democrats
AXIOS ^

Posted on 11/07/2023 3:39:49 AM PST by 11th_VA

No issue threatens to break President Biden's fragile Democratic coalition like Israel's response to the Hamas terrorist attack.

Why it matters: Infighting is spreading, slowly but meaningfully, at every layer of the Democratic Party over Biden's full-throated support of Israel. It runs much deeper than college campus protests or caustic comments from elected officials.

Step back and survey the split:

Many liberal Jews are furious that so many progressive Democrats aren't more outraged by the slaughter of family and friends back in Israel. Some are threatening to leave the party.

Pro-Palestinian Democrats are outraged at the rising death tolls in Gaza made possible by Biden's posture.

Biden's administration and political operation are getting tense and growing more deeply divided. Nearly 20% of the DNC's roughly 300 employees signed a letter asking their boss to demand a ceasefire, Axios' Alex Thompson reports.

A junior State Department foreign affairs officer sent a massive internal email to organize a "dissent cable" on the administration's Israel policy — and alleged on social media that Biden is "complicit in genocide" in Gaza, Axios' Hans Nichols and Barak Ravid scooped.

By contrast, Republicans are mostly united in supporting Israel and have been consistently for a long time.

Among Democrats in Congress, the divide is deep and personal:

Day after day, more House Democrats are criticizing Israel's expanding ground operations, raising concerns with Biden's policy and even calling for a ceasefire.

At least five of the liberal House Democrats in "The Squad" are likely to face primary challengers after criticizing U.S. military aid to Israel — Ilhan Omar (Minn.), Rashida Tlaib (Mich.), Cori Bush (Mo.), Summer Lee (Pa.) and Jamaal Bowman (N.Y.). Money is expected to pour in.


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TOPICS: Extended News; Israel; Politics/Elections
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To: RoosterRedux

“You can’t unsee it. It changes everything you thought you knew about what humans can do to other humans.”“

This McCallum person, she’s not real bright or observant, is she?


61 posted on 11/07/2023 5:55:10 AM PST by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: 11th_VA
Tlaib accused Biden of supporting "genocide" of Palestinians. "Mr. President, the American people are not with you on this one,"

Yeah, because I'm sure Rashida has her finger firmly on the pulse of the "American people".

62 posted on 11/07/2023 5:56:50 AM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell>)
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To: 11th_VA

What will reunite the Democrats in 2024 is their hatred of us pro-America conservatives.


63 posted on 11/07/2023 5:59:52 AM PST by Dan in Wichita
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To: Bayard

“ Not a single ostensibly “muslim” nation has declared war. “

Don’t underestimate their tactic of sending Muslims into western countries as immigrants.


64 posted on 11/07/2023 6:02:00 AM PST by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: Bayard

The Arab nations that matter rallied to President Trump and joined tha Abrams Accord/Negev Summit coalition.

At the direction of Iran, Hamas attacked Israel to destroy the coalition that is actually threatening Iranian strategy. Iran had to stop the glowing and growing positive relations between Saudi Arabis and Israel.

Iran has absolutely failed. The Trump developed coalition has trashed the Obama legacy and the Iranian surrogate meddling


65 posted on 11/07/2023 6:03:27 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: 11th_VA
one leading Democratic official told us. "They're happy with Biden but angry with the party." This Democrat told us that Biden's approach to Israel shows "resolve and conviction. For voters who think we're weak on immigration and crime, this is the kind of strength they need to see."

"The kind of strength they need to see", even though you're not actually doing anything about illegal immigration and crime. But hey, at least you're showing "resolve and conviction" in support of someone! That whole southern border and our "Escape from New York"-style crime-ridden cities? You'll get to that, right? At some point... possibly. Or do we need to import a few million more "Palestinians" first?

66 posted on 11/07/2023 6:03:38 AM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell>)
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To: xp38; RoosterRedux

They are held together by hatred of the other side namely us. That can overcome a lot of differences. Lenin is quoted as saying communism is hatred and in this he was actually proud. When it comes to the left in general I often think of them as proud murderers. In that sense they fit hand in glove with Islam.

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In one audio recording, a Hamas footsoldier called his mother back in Gaza and reported on how he had just slaughtered a Jewish family. He was calling from the home of the family he butchered. He spoke about how proud she would be of him for how he made them suffer before killing them.

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Rooster’s post shows how right you are xp38


67 posted on 11/07/2023 6:11:14 AM PST by mund1011 (We can ignore reality, but we cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality)
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To: yldstrk

Not really, Houthi rebels, but its not like Yemen has a overseas military to speak of either.

They are not really at war.


68 posted on 11/07/2023 6:13:28 AM PST by Bayard
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To: 11th_VA
Biden's full-throated support of Israel.


69 posted on 11/07/2023 6:15:42 AM PST by silent_jonny (Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin, Joe. The feet are at the door (Acts 5:9) 9-18-21)
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To: TalBlack
Don’t underestimate their tactic of sending Muslims into western countries as immigrants.

Tlaib is not afraid of being primaried in her pro-Palestine district.

70 posted on 11/07/2023 6:18:43 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: Bayard
You aren't familiar with Hezbollah, are you? Hezbollah is an Iranian-backed army and it is on the North of Israel. It is mobilized.

BTW, Iran is Shia. Hezbollah is Shia.

Hamas was Sunni. Not really an Iranian operation. But funded in this attack by Iran (and others).

War against Israel will never be over as long as it has Muslim neighbors.

71 posted on 11/07/2023 6:20:46 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: TalBlack

Probably naive. Not stupid.


72 posted on 11/07/2023 6:22:37 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: no-to-illegals

There’s a long list of nasty things that a vote for a DemocRat represents. Hamas is just in the latest one to rear it’s head.


73 posted on 11/07/2023 6:24:40 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants ( "It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled."- Mark Twain)
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To: 11th_VA

What a coalition. Most of the left hate the Jews. The Muslims hate the lgbq. A party built on hate.


74 posted on 11/07/2023 6:39:01 AM PST by pas
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To: RoosterRedux

SO you are making my point that Iran doesn’t care about Hamas.

Hezbollah is not in Gaza, but it is in Syria, stop pretending like they are some major military invasion force. IDF controls the Golan Heights and can shell them when they need.


75 posted on 11/07/2023 7:06:25 AM PST by Bayard
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To: 11th_VA

The fascist party will figure out how to stay in lock-step. Don’t you worry your little head.


76 posted on 11/07/2023 7:07:46 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: TalBlack

Are we talking about Israel now or Western countries with stupid immigration policy, stop moving the context here.


77 posted on 11/07/2023 7:09:47 AM PST by Bayard
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To: Bayard
I'm sorry for spending time discussing that matter with you. We are obviously from two different planets.

Sorry for any condescending comment I might have made.

78 posted on 11/07/2023 7:20:49 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: RoosterRedux

No need to apologize, I think the idea exchange was important.

I don’t see Israel losing longterm here. They know this, its going to temporarily hurt the Democrats, but I suspect the leftist liberals tempest here will eventually reassemble after Israel wins.

Like a dog returning to its vomit.


79 posted on 11/07/2023 7:33:09 AM PST by Bayard
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To: Bayard

:-)


80 posted on 11/07/2023 7:35:39 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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