Posted on 11/04/2023 9:29:35 AM PDT by Mariner
Ukrainian President Zelensky does not think the situation on the front in Ukraine is a stalemate and has said that Ukraine will not negotiate with Russia.
Source: President Zelenskyy during a press conference with President of the European Commission, as reported by Interfax-Ukraine
Details: A recent article in The Economist quoted Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine as saying that the situation on the front is at a stalemate. Zelenskyy responded to this by saying there was no stalemate.
Quote from Zelenskyy: "This is not a stalemate. Russia controls the sky. We are protecting our troops. No one [in Ukraine] wants to just throw our people [into the battle] like Russia does [...]
How can we overcome it? With the F-16s, we have to wait for our guys to get trained and for them to come back. When there’s air defence on the front, our soldiers advance, and they deploy the equipment they have."
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“They think they can just promise no NATO expansion, and Minsk 3, and Russia will buy it.”
As I noted in another thread - at this point, if Ukraine is going to exist as a country, rather than being divvied out to Poland, Hungary, and of course Russia, then Ukraine will be an OCCUPIED country, indefinitely. It will either be occupied by Russia, China, India, or maybe some other country, but it will never be an independent country again. That is my prediction and is based on the history of what the Neocons did there - Russia can NEVER again trust any agreement with the West, and they sure as heck will not be making any more of them regarding Ukraine. Either Ukraine disappears, or its future is as an occupied country, and the Ukrainians can thank the Neocons for that outcome.
Try that with no US money, Zed.
You mean Putin will wind up like Mussolini? That would be nice, but Russia isn’t as civilized as Italy.
LOL
get Ukraine everything they need to defeat the evil putin/russia
To be found living outside of Ukraine. Which nation will harbor him?
He can always buy an island somewhere and live off the money he’s grifted out of us...
I don’t think FJB has enough marbles remaining to collude with anybody about anything. Someone at this end is raking off a substantial amount of Ukraine aid, I’m sure, but probably not Old Poopy Pants.
Maybe not, but he’s got family looking out for his “interests”.
Shoigu is afraid of the F-16 fighters and has pledged to destroy them within 20 days.
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More likely destroyed before their first wheels up mission….just like the other western wonder weapons, Leopards ( 5 more destroyed/ abandoned in the last week), MRAPS, Bradley’s, M113, Strykers, ….bring on the M1 Abraham’s….it will be a site to see….such a hideous waste of US taxpayers money.
Yes. The Russians have figured out that any territory they do not occupy militarily will have NATO forces on them.
So the future border, at least for military purposes, will likely be the Dnieper, which is a good defensive barrier.
Ukraine might still have some administrative function east of the Dnieper, but the Russian military will be right up to the river’s edge.
Ukraine getting dependent on the USA, then losing everything is consistent with the fate of other US allies: KMT China, Korea, Vietnam, Laos , Cambodia, Cuba, Nicaragua, Shah of Iran.
Taiwan needs to take note, and make their best deal.
Sorry dear. You’re 20 months late to the Ukraine pie fight.
And the Ukraine Navy is parked in the Monte Carlo port
He’ll end up like Hitler, in his bunker pushing around pieces on a. Oars and saying “Schteiner...”
Except it will be his own troops assaulting him, or more accurately the remainder of his own troops. at which point he becomes Caucescu. Maybe he knows this.
Oh well.
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Possible......very possible.
Maybe something in between. The Russians go to the Dnieper, and take 1/3 of the country plus Odessa, of course (which would still be a bargain for all the crap that the Neocons caused), then the middle third is a DMZ, with India, China, or some other country that Russia trusts assuring that it’s not militarized. Finally, the Western third can stay as Ukraine, if they learn to behave, if not, then it gets divvied up.
When the House stops paying Joey’s blackmail with our money this little scumbag will be gone. It won’t be a single minute before.
“... then the middle third is a DMZ, with India, China, or some other country that Russia trusts assuring that it’s not militarized. “
Given everything that has happened, I don’t think the Russians would trust this.
I think more likely is something like the Occupation of the Rhineland, where Germany had administrative control, but was de-militarized and occupied by Allied troops.
Ukraine choose poorly. They thought they were going to get entry into NATO, EU and protection by the USA for free.
Instead they get hundreds of thousands killed, no NATO, no EU, and abandoned by the USA like so many other allies.
“Given everything that has happened, I don’t think the Russians would trust this.”
True, the Russians would be counting on other countries, and that means that those countries could flip on them.
Anyway, no doubt their having some pretty wild meetings in Moscow on this subject!
ZELENSKY : “There is no stalemate, and there will be no talks or concessions”!
BIDEN & ADMINISTRATION : “JAWOHL MEIN FUHRER”!
Why? Both Countries are corrupt.
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