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Israeli soldiers could end up fighting through an 'underground nightmare' in an invasion of Gaza, home to Hamas' infamous 'metro' of tunnels
Insider ^ | October 19, 2023 | Jake Epstein

Posted on 10/31/2023 6:55:22 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie

Israeli officials have vowed to crush Hamas in response to its brutal terror attacks earlier this month, signaling that the way to ultimately do this is through a major ground invasion of the Gaza Strip. That's easier said than done though.

In Gaza, invading Israeli forces will face a complex and dangerous urban environment, in which Hamas' well-armed and well-prepared forces can hide, set up traps, and launch surprise assaults. And some of the most difficult fighting could be underground, in the city-like labyrinth of tunnels that are vital to the militant group's defensive and offensive operations.

Although it is unclear how the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) will go about dealing with challenges posed by the tunnels, they are a known threat and one for which the IDF is not unprepared. But while the military has the means to infiltrate this network, a former US Army infantry soldier said that in any capacity, "it will increase the time to conduct an operation in Gaza."

"You can't leave a hole to your back," John Spencer, chair of urban warfare studies at West Point's Modern War Institute, told Insider. "And you can't not clear a tunnel if there's a potential for a hostage to be in there."

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Gaza; Hamas; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gaza; hamas; idf; israel; ohnoz; tunnel; war
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To: The_Media_never_lie

It’s going to be nasty bloody work. But it has to be done.


21 posted on 10/31/2023 7:21:46 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized of man)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Something along the lines of this:


22 posted on 10/31/2023 7:23:04 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized of man)
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To: LeoWindhorse

>> U.S. should send Israel massive amounts of seized fentanyl, with which they could make fentanyl gas, and then deploy that into the tunnel systems

A poster on another thread pointed out the delicious irony of the Jews gassing the HamaNazis. The idea makes me smile.


23 posted on 10/31/2023 7:23:04 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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To: DHerion

24 posted on 10/31/2023 7:24:17 PM PDT by Sertorius (A hayseed with no Greek and dam^ proud of it)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Fill full of flammable fluid then toss in a match.


25 posted on 10/31/2023 7:27:59 PM PDT by Wdempsey (Democrats and slinkys.. Both useless but fun to push down stairs.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Israeli soldiers could end up fighting through an 'underground nightmare' in an invasion of Gaza, home to Hamas' infamous 'metro' of tunnels

Or they could just blow up the tunnels and any Hamas terrorists in them.
26 posted on 10/31/2023 7:29:22 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Flood the tunnels with expanding foam insulation!

๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ๐Ÿ‘


27 posted on 10/31/2023 7:29:27 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this๐Ÿ’ฉ? ๐Ÿšซ๐Ÿ’‰! ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ๐Ÿ‘!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
We've hear this before..Iraq had the biggest battle seasoned army with the elite republican guards. The streets would run with blood.

All muzzie hyperbole

28 posted on 10/31/2023 7:30:37 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: DAC21

Maybe pump in a hallucinogenic compound that causes psychotic breaks, so they all become paranoid and murder each other โ€ฆ..? I want them to suffer, too.


29 posted on 10/31/2023 7:31:27 PM PDT by dadgum (Enough!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

They’ll send in robots with cameras and belt fed 50 cals attached.


30 posted on 10/31/2023 7:34:42 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: pfflier

Someone mentioned flooding tunnels with sea water, they don’t have to fill them but enough to get them to evacuate


31 posted on 10/31/2023 7:35:30 PM PDT by bboise
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To: bboise

"So you have to fall back on superior intelligence and superior firepower. And that's all she wrote."

32 posted on 10/31/2023 7:36:51 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Flood the tunnels, fill them with smoke and water.
Force the rats out of the sewers.


33 posted on 10/31/2023 7:37:05 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Not necessarily...
Simply fill the tunnels with poisonous or disabling gas...
Or, better yet, napalm...


34 posted on 10/31/2023 7:38:22 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is the next Sam Adams when we so desperately need him)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Flood the tunnels with gasoline and torch them!

Render Gaza unlivable!


35 posted on 10/31/2023 7:39:19 PM PDT by Taxman ((SAVE AMERICA! VOTE REPUBLICAN IN 2023 AND 2024!))
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To: The_Media_never_lie

What’s all this fuss about tunnels? Tunnels are easy, flood them and/or blow them up and then seal them.


36 posted on 10/31/2023 7:40:52 PM PDT by fightin kentuckian
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Real problem (as planned by the enemy) is to be gentle in rescuing the hostages the soldiers can’t be rough to the Hamas soldiers.

Can’t flood the tunnels like Carl in Caddyshack.

The whole things is a nightmare and every act of normal war will be a UN and Dem “war crime.” After literally thousands were kidnapped or slaughtered in Israel in a sneak attack.


37 posted on 10/31/2023 7:43:33 PM PDT by frank ballenger (โ€œMy job is to inform, not to convince.โ€ St. Bernadette Soubirous )
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To: bboise

Cheap and easy, but block the exits first.


38 posted on 10/31/2023 7:44:48 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: Jonty30

I kinda like the idea of installing motion detectors and then flooding the tunnels when tripped.


39 posted on 10/31/2023 7:46:39 PM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now... )
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To: jjotto

RE: Author is stuck in 1945. Glorious Soviet Union!

Sometime look at YouTube (I have dvds, of course) of Frank Capra’s pro-US war effort films Why We Fight.
The Russians moving forward relentlessly in the Scorched Earth maneuvers was exciting as a war film. 800,000 enemy dead (Germans).

Summary of The Battle of Russia: Part Two
“The Battle of Russia,” Chapter V of Frank Capra’s “Why We Fight”
series, follows the beginning of the end for Adolph Hitler. In Part
Two, the German army falls victim to the Soviet scorched-earth strategy.
The Russian forces flee from the start, retreating deep into their
homeland, drawing the Nazis farther and farther away from the German
border. As the Red Army falls back, it destroys infrastructure and
natural resources, making it difficult for the Nazi army to live off the
land. Once the famed Russian winter sets in, Germany is doomed. The
film focuses on the stalwart defense of Leningrad. After the Nazis
surround the Soviet metropolis in an attempt to starve out its
residents, the Russians outsmart them by constructing a fully
operational railroad across a frozen lake to get supplies to the
beleaguered citizens. The Battle of Russia ends up as a disaster for the
Germans, who lose more than 800,000 men.
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https://www.google.com/search?q=frank+capra+scorched+earth+why+we+fight&sca_esv=578365596&ei=7LtBZYiTBtyxptQPgNqbkAY&ved=0ahUKEwiIud2t5KGCAxXcmIkEH


40 posted on 10/31/2023 7:49:44 PM PDT by frank ballenger (โ€œMy job is to inform, not to convince.โ€ St. Bernadette Soubirous )
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