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Elon Musk just lost $28 billion as Tesla took a beating. Now Toyota's Chairman says ‘people are waking up to reality’ that EV adoption will be an uphill battle
Fortune ^ | 10/25/2023 | Paige Hagy

Posted on 10/30/2023 9:33:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Toyota’s chairman and former CEO, Akio Toyoda, has long been a skeptic of the electric vehicle hype train—it was a big reason he stepped down from the top job at the Japanese carmaker earlier this year. Now, he can finally say, “I told you so.” With Elon Musk’s Tesla reporting disastrous third-quarter earnings last week, investors are realizing that EVs are no silver bullet for profit. “People are finally seeing reality,” Toyoda said on Wednesday.

Akio Toyoda stepped down from his role as CEO of Toyota earlier this year, in the wake of questions over his leadership resulting from the company’s slow adoption of EVs. Now the company’s chairman, he says that slowing sales vindicate his resistance to EVs, and that “people are finally seeing reality” about the technology.

The CEO pointed to slowing growth in the U.S. as proof that his company’s reticence towards EVs was correct. “There are many ways to climb the mountain that is achieving carbon neutrality,” he told reporters at the Japan Mobility Show this week.

Although EV sales growth has slowed, the market is still growing. The Wall Street Journal reports that global sales of electric vehicles grew by 63 percent in 2022, and have slowed to 49 percent in 2023. That slowdown has affected the American market in particular, where automakers GM and Ford are considering slowing production of electric pickups.

Toyoda claimed that this is proof that “if regulations are created based on ideals, it is regular users who are the ones who suffer.”


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: automotive; electric; elonmusk; ev; evs; tesla; toyota
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During his tenure as CEO, Toyota was ranked as the third most obstructive company towards government efforts to curb climate change, behind just ExxonMobil and Chevron.
1 posted on 10/30/2023 9:33:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

It appears that Toyota is the only car company that doesn’t have its head UIA.


2 posted on 10/30/2023 9:35:33 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Heh heh heh. But the FRiends already knew this.


3 posted on 10/30/2023 9:36:51 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Don't be an attention ho. Country Music Stars aren't given Grammys by the retarded, "woke" left. )
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To: SeekAndFind

“if regulations are created based on ideals, it is regular users who are the ones who suffer.”

A wise man. The intent on forcing EV’s on everyone is to reduce the number of cars, forcing regular people into mass transit. The ruling elite then have freeways that are a lot less crowded to do their important work.


4 posted on 10/30/2023 9:38:01 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: SeekAndFind

Similar to CONvid, we decline to participate. EVs are like budlight,..... Nope!

🙏🇺🇸🇮🇱👍


5 posted on 10/30/2023 9:39:40 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Right on.


6 posted on 10/30/2023 9:40:51 AM PDT by Tommy Revolts
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To: SeekAndFind

Toyota was and remains a leader in developing hydrogen powered vehicles in addition to being the leader in hybrid vehicles. There is a reason they are the #1 auto manufacturer in the world: quality vehicles, smart management, smart designs, innovation in the right direction rather than pipe dreams.


7 posted on 10/30/2023 9:41:03 AM PDT by Avalon Memories (Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats. -- P.J. O’Rourke)
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To: SeekAndFind

I wonder how much Tesla’s carbon credits scam revenue will drop from this? The govt gives Tesla fake carbon credits to sell to oil refiners and such as a reward for ostensibly saving the planet with every EV sold. But if EV sales go down then the carbon credits allotted to Tesla should go down too, right?


8 posted on 10/30/2023 9:44:05 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Musk didn't lose anything.
It's the taxpayers and the suckers that funded/bought into his subsidized scam that are the losers.
9 posted on 10/30/2023 9:46:40 AM PDT by lewislynn ( Trump accomplished more for America in one 4yr term than any President in your lifetime)
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“EV adoption an uphill battle”. well duh! uphill depletes the battery quick, fast and in a hurry. I am not shocked... I don’t have one! no garage fire worries either.


10 posted on 10/30/2023 9:49:06 AM PDT by Qwapisking ("IF the Second goes first the First goes second" L.Star )
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To: SeekAndFind

There are Toyotas and there are automobile manufacturers. That is the reason why Toyota is the greatest car company in the world and worlds apart from everyone else. Stands to reason they actually have a CEO who is a leader and opposed to virtually every other large company in the world with a worthless CEO. Never ever let a CEO run a company because a CEO stops doing what they did to become a CEO when they get there. Why not? You are at the top, no where to go from there. Ride it out 5 to 10 and walk away and sit on boards of other companies. Thus the reason they all suck at leadership.


11 posted on 10/30/2023 9:54:49 AM PDT by pghbjugop
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To: SeekAndFind

How’s that Ford stock doing?


12 posted on 10/30/2023 9:55:08 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Successful People Have a Sense of Gratitude. Unsuccessful People Have a Sense of Entitlement)
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EVs are a stepping stone to the real answer to pollution free vehicles...hydrogen.


13 posted on 10/30/2023 9:58:01 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: SeekAndFind

Most of us here already knew this. One only has to look at scientific facts to determine that battery powered EV’s are very bad in almost every way.


14 posted on 10/30/2023 10:03:20 AM PDT by Revel
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investors are realizing that EVs are no silver bullet for profit.

too bad, you looked the other way while FedGov put in new regualtions and blues states all over banned gas cars over a few years instead of fighting it while you could. Now, just get out of the car business because government ruined it and we'll all have to figure out how to convert our garages into stables for our next 1 horse power vehicles.

15 posted on 10/30/2023 10:04:00 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie ("We want no Gestapo or Secret Police. F. B. I. is tending in that direction." - Harry S Truman)
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To: SeekAndFind

The problem with the government picking winners and losers is the technology isn’t settled yet. So while ‘electric’ sounded great there might have been better solutions if markets had chosen the leaders...


16 posted on 10/30/2023 10:04:27 AM PDT by GOPJ (The reason Biden won't protect our border is he wants cash kickbacks for doing it. )
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EVs are a stepping stone to the real answer to pollution free vehicles...hydrogen.

They're a stepping stone which should have been avoided. Like Compact flourescent bulbs which government mandated even though they sucked in every possible way. Thankfully LEDs saved the day but government didn't see that coming and so didn't plan for a ban on them in advance.

Hydrogen will be banned though, I bet. Too scary, it's flammable! And like a few accidents with Ford Pintos (the outrage, it turns out, was manufactured and Pintos weren't involved in any more fires than any other cars of the time) all sorts of exciting new regulations will come in.

Government ruins everything it touches. I used to say 'except the military' but they finally ruined that too.

17 posted on 10/30/2023 10:07:40 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie ("We want no Gestapo or Secret Police. F. B. I. is tending in that direction." - Harry S Truman)
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To: Jim W N

Toyota does not have the US Government gun to their head.


18 posted on 10/30/2023 10:10:39 AM PDT by gibsonguy ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

fed investigation of toyota in 3...2...1


19 posted on 10/30/2023 10:12:47 AM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: Signalman

why do we need a stepping stone?


20 posted on 10/30/2023 10:14:49 AM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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