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Hungary's PM Orban: EU's strategy on Ukraine 'has failed'
Reuters ^ | October 27, 2023 | Reuters

Posted on 10/27/2023 4:50:12 PM PDT by Kazan

BUDAPEST, Oct 27 (Reuters) - The European Union's strategy with regards to the war in Ukraine "has failed" and the bloc should create a plan B as the Ukrainians will not win on the frontline, Prime Minister Viktor Orban told Hungarian state radio on Friday.

Orban, speaking in Brussels on the sidelines of an EU summit, said there was a "big battle" especially over support for Ukraine. Orban said he saw no reason for Hungary to send its taxpayers' money to support Ukraine.

The EU is due to decide in December on a revision of its 2021-27 budget worth 1.1 trillion euros ($1.2 trln), which is already strained by emergency spending during the COVID pandemic and since Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022.

The bloc's executive proposed that member states chip in more to the shared coffers to provide 50 billion euros to Ukraine and spend another 15 billion euros on migration. Another proposal would allocate 20 billion euros in military aid for Ukraine.

"We found this proposal had not been worked out properly, and was not suitable to be a basis for serious negotiations so we had rejected it," Orban said. "It was a big battle, especially on the Ukrainian issue."

Orban said the biggest problem was that the Brussels strategy to send money and military aid to Ukraine to help its fight against Russia has failed.

"Today everybody knows but they do not dare to say it out loud, that this strategy has failed. Its obvious that this will not work....the Ukrainians will not win on the frontline," he said, adding that a plan B was needed and a cost estimate for that.

"Once we know how much that costs, we can share that burden among ourselves."

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KEYWORDS: chat; failedproxywar; neoconsvotedbiden; russia; ukraine; zelenskyworshippers
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No more money for this failed proxy war, Speaker Johnson.
1 posted on 10/27/2023 4:50:12 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan
Wrong yet again (and again, and again, and again, etc.).

Conservatives Express Concern Over Newly-Elected Speaker Johnson’s Ukraine Position on First Day after McConnell Meeting

2 posted on 10/27/2023 4:54:46 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Timber Rattler

What? You don’t believe Orban said this?


3 posted on 10/27/2023 5:00:08 PM PDT by tennmountainman (FUJB)
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To: Kazan

Putin raised rates to 15% today.

That’s what happens when the currency declines 50% and imports suddenly cost twice as much.

It’s soon to be called hyperinflation.

He being milked by the enablers into oblivion.


4 posted on 10/27/2023 5:00:19 PM PDT by Freest Republican (This space for rent)
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To: Timber Rattler

What I clearly heard Johnson say is Ukraine has to account exactly how the money was spent!
No one else holds them accountable.


5 posted on 10/27/2023 5:05:03 PM PDT by Guenevere (“If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?”)
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To: Kazan

Not one cent, not one soldier, not one bullet for the evil Zelensky Dick Tatorship !


6 posted on 10/27/2023 5:05:49 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: Kazan

Orban is wrong as usual. Ukraine is still Ukraine after nearly two years of genocidal invasion by the biggest country in the world. If that isn’t successful policy nothing is.


7 posted on 10/27/2023 5:06:24 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Freest Republican

You maybe want to look at what’s happened to our interest rate and why… Hint: Similar reasons.


8 posted on 10/27/2023 5:09:29 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Timber Rattler

“Conditions… accountability…objectives”

This is lawyer talk, and the setup for a big NO.
You may as well go ahead and ink a new map of the ukraine.


9 posted on 10/27/2023 5:09:46 PM PDT by CapandBall
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To: lodi90

Orban is one of the planet’s greatest political leaders. That the Globalist-Marxist warmongering peanut gallery hates him is all we need to know how good and right he is.


10 posted on 10/27/2023 5:11:48 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I’m fine with sending humanitarian aid and letting them buy weapons. No troops or other aid for Ukraine until our borders are actually secured. Ukraine is not a formal ally of the US - we should be reinforcing Poland, an actual ally, in case Russia goes after them.

Alliances should mean something and there should be consequences for not being an ally.


11 posted on 10/27/2023 5:12:04 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: CapandBall

That’s all they do is talk, because they’re too chicken to go to Kiev and fight for their globalist dick tator Zelensky.


12 posted on 10/27/2023 5:12:47 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: Spktyr

I would but the dollar is stronger not weaker.


13 posted on 10/27/2023 5:12:54 PM PDT by Freest Republican (This space for rent)
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To: Spktyr

Allowing the corrupt regime of the Ukraine to buy weapons from us is an explicit provocation to Russia. We need to absolutely stay out of it. Foreign entanglements as such trigger all-out wars, and that’s gotten us precisely nowhere.


14 posted on 10/27/2023 5:15:42 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

LOL. Orban is a vapid contrarian who plays the politically naïve like a fiddle.


15 posted on 10/27/2023 5:15:43 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Freest Republican

“I would but the dollar is stronger not weaker”

Are you on drugs?

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16 posted on 10/27/2023 5:16:47 PM PDT by CapandBall
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To: tennmountainman

No, I have no doubt that he said it, because he’s been a Putin toadie from the start, completely ignoring what the Muscovites did to Hungary in 1956. But it’s not going to matter.


17 posted on 10/27/2023 5:17:11 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I should have said that was about as far as I’d go. However, I’m still fine with it because the Russians know they were supplying weapons to America’s enemies for decades. It’s just how things were done.


18 posted on 10/27/2023 5:17:15 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: lodi90

The fact the worst trolls on FR hate him shows just how great he is. Meanwhile, you guys worship the degenerate Dick Tator Zelensky. Says it all.


19 posted on 10/27/2023 5:17:59 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: Freest Republican

On FOREX, maybe, but in terms of purchasing power, the dollar is rapidly weakening all the same.


20 posted on 10/27/2023 5:18:09 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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