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Here Are Obama's 'Thoughts on Israel and Hamas.' Just Wait Until You Get to the End
Townhall ^ | 10/23/2023 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 10/23/2023 8:43:50 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

You can decide and debate this in the comments section below. Former President Barack Obama has another lengthy post about his “thoughts” on the Israel-Hamas war. It’s a tortured thought exercise that will inevitably leave all parties dissatisfied. Obama voices his support for Israel, the safety of its people, and its right to exist, which is anathema to the legions of far-left, pro-Hamas supporters we’ve seen come out of the bushes in the past two weeks. These folks weren’t clamoring for a two-state solution; they wanted Israel destroyed, along with its people.

On the flip side, Obama insinuates that Israeli forces might be induced to commit war crimes with their pending ground invasion of Gaza following Hamas’ vicious and genocidal terrorist attack on October 7. Obama goes to great lengths to be fair in this post, which only helps Hamas. Civilian casualties should be minimized and avoided, but it's a tragic part of war. People are going to die, lots of them.

With a terrorist organization like Hamas, their life’s blood, as with any insurgency, is with the people who support them. They may get training and arms from Iran, but the endorsement of their agenda from the civilian population is the actual base of support. They have terror tunnels intentionally built over civilian structures—this isn’t some happenstance. The people of Gaza gave their blessing when this terrorist infrastructure was being built, just as they gave Hamas their endorsement when they voted them into power in 2006. The terror group then seized the Gaza Strip by force in 2007.

So, excuse me, while I don’t want to hear the side that only shields this terrorist organization under the veneer of human rights and humanitarian aid. Any measure that prevents Hamas’ eradication is a pro-terrorist position.

And to cap it all off, of course, Obama, being the professor who must always lecture, has a reading list at the end of this post, one being from his Iran Deal gaslighting operative Ben Rhodes: 

also a NYT article over the weekend: "‘I Love You. I Am Sorry’: One Jew, One Muslim and a Friendship Tested by War"

all told, it's the kind of reading list that would infuriate those advocating for Israel to deter Hamas terrorism w/ a strong responsehttps://t.co/M0GhDboVr4— Josh Kraushaar (@JoshKraushaar) October 23, 2023


It’s been 17 days since Hamas launched its horrific attack against Israel, killing over 1,400 Israeli citizens, including defenseless women, children and the elderly. In the aftermath of such unspeakable brutality, the U.S. government and the American people have shared in the grief of families, prayed for the return of loved ones, and rightly declared solidarity with the Israeli people. 

As I stated in an earlier post, Israel has a right to defend its citizens against such wanton violence, and I fully support President Biden’s call for the United States to support our long-time ally in going after Hamas, dismantling its military capabilities, and facilitating the safe return of hundreds of hostages to their families. 

But even as we support Israel, we should also be clear that how Israel prosecutes this fight against Hamas matters. In particular, it matters — as President Biden has repeatedly emphasized — that Israel’s military strategy abides by international law, including those laws that seek to avoid, to every extent possible, the death or suffering of civilian populations. Upholding these values is important for its own sake — because it is morally just and reflects our belief in the inherent value of every human life. Upholding these values is also vital for building alliances and shaping international opinion — all of which are critical for Israel’s long-term security. 

This is an enormously difficult task. War is always tragic, and even the most carefully planned military operations often put civilians at risk. As President Biden noted during his recent visit to Israel, America itself has at times fallen short of our higher values when engaged in war, and in the aftermath of 9/11, the U.S. government wasn’t interested in heeding the advice of even our allies when it came to the steps we took to protect ourselves against Al Qaeda. Now, after the systematic massacre of Israeli citizens, a massacre that evokes some of the darkest memories of persecution against the Jewish people, it’s understandable that many Israelis have demanded that their government do whatever it takes to root out Hamas and make sure such attacks never happen again. Moreover, Hamas’ military operations are deeply embedded within Gaza — and its leadership seems to intentionally hide among civilians, thereby endangering the very people they claim to represent. 

Still, the world is watching closely as events in the region unfold, and any Israeli military strategy that ignores the human costs could ultimately backfire. Already, thousands of Palestinians have been killed in the bombing of Gaza, many of them children. Hundreds of thousands have been forced from their homes. The Israeli government’s decision to cut off food, water and electricity to a captive civilian population threatens not only to worsen a growing humanitarian crisis; it could further harden Palestinian attitudes for generations, erode global support for Israel, play into the hands of Israel’s enemies, and undermine long term efforts to achieve peace and stability in the region. 

It’s therefore important that those of us supporting Israel in its time of need encourage a strategy that can incapacitate Hamas while minimizing further civilian casualties. Israel’s recent shift to allow relief trucks into Gaza, prompted in part by the Biden administration’s behind-the-scenes diplomacy, is an encouraging step, but we need to continue to lead the international community in accelerating critical aid and supplies to an increasingly desperate Gaza population. And while the prospects of future peace may seem more distant than ever, we should call on all of the key actors in the region to engage with those Palestinian leaders and organizations that recognize Israel’s right to exist to begin articulating a viable pathway for Palestinians to achieve their legitimate aspirations for self-determination — because that is the best and perhaps only way to achieve the lasting peace and security most Israeli and Palestinian families yearn for. 

Finally, in dealing with what is an extraordinarily complex situation where so many people are in pain and passions are understandably running high, all of us need to do our best to put our best values, rather than our worst fears, on display. 

That means actively opposing anti-semitism in all its forms, everywhere. It means rejecting efforts to minimize the terrible tragedy that the Israeli people have just endured, as well as the morally-bankrupt suggestion that any cause can somehow justify the deliberate slaughter of innocent people. 

It means rejecting anti-Muslim, anti-Arab or anti-Palestinian sentiment. It means refusing to lump all Palestinians with Hamas or other terrorist groups. It means guarding against dehumanizing language towards the people of Gaza, or downplaying Palestinian suffering — whether in Gaza or the West Bank — as irrelevant or illegitimate. 

It means recognizing that Israel has every right to exist; that the Jewish people have claim to a secure homeland where they have ancient historical roots; and that there have been instances in which previous Israeli governments made meaningful efforts to resolve the dispute and provide a path for a two-state solution — efforts that were ultimately rebuffed by the other side. 

It means acknowledging that Palestinians have also lived in disputed territories for generations; that many of them were not only displaced when Israel was formed but continue to be forcibly displaced by a settler movement that too often has received tacit or explicit support from the Israeli government; that Palestinian leaders who’ve been willing to make concessions for a two-state solution have too often had little to show for their efforts; and that it is possible for people of good will to champion Palestinian rights and oppose certain Israeli government policies in the West Bank and Gaza without being anti-semitic. 

Perhaps most of all, it means we should choose not to always assume the worst in those with whom we disagree. In an age of constant rancor, trolling and misinformation on social media, at a time when so many politicians and attention seekers see an advantage in shedding heat rather than light, it may be unrealistic to expect respectful dialogue on any issue — much less on an issue with such high stakes and after so much blood has been spilled. But if we care about keeping open the possibility of peace, security and dignity for future generations of Israeli and Palestinian children — as well as for our own children — then it falls upon all of us to at least make the effort to model, in our own words and actions, the kind of world we want them to inherit. 

Here are links to some useful perspectives and background on the conflict: 

●Israel Is About to Make a Terrible Mistake by Thomas L. Friedman 

● ‘I Love You. I Am Sorry’: One Jew, One Muslim and a Friendship Tested by War by Kurt Streeter

● A Timeline of Israel and Palestine’s Complicated History by Nicole Narea 

● Gaza: The Cost of Escalation by Ben Rhodes

You can see why Netanyahu never trusted this guy. Israel doesn’t target civilians; Hamas does. Israel has warned civilians for days to vacate areas that will become war zones. And for all the Arab nations’ support for Palestinians, none of them want these people around either. We might as well have Hamas propaganda on this list, which The New York Times ran with over the Gaza hospital story, which was fake news.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Iran; Israel; News/Current Events; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: gaza; hamas; iran; israel; obama; syria; waronterror
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To: Mogger

21 posted on 10/24/2023 3:22:05 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: TigersEye

Peace means Lack of Opposition. I’m sure their prophet wanted that.


22 posted on 10/24/2023 3:23:21 AM PDT by griswold3 (Truth, Beauty and Goodness )
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To: EinNYC

After reading through Obama’s word salad, it looks like he is sympathetic to the two state solution. So are Xi and Putin, the leaders of America’s biggest rivals. We must recognize that the current President and his two Democratic predecessors have had considerable ties with Communists, both foreign and domestic, and with leftist financiers like Armand Hammer.


23 posted on 10/24/2023 3:47:17 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: SeekAndFind

Anti-Christ ??? Maybe...


24 posted on 10/24/2023 4:08:59 AM PDT by Russ (I )
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To: Wallace T.; Roman_War_Criminal; metmom; Bulwyf; HeadOn; 444Flyer; mitch5501; SisterK; Maudeen; ...
[After reading through Obama’s word salad, it looks like he is sympathetic to the two state solution.]

Of course he is. He's as antichrist as they come. This is the deceptive "peace" that's prophesied in Daniel 8:23-25. Many think this thing is going to work because there's really no other solution.

What it will do is unleash Satan's Antichrist and False Prophet upon the Earth. They will not be stopped all the way to Armageddon. The majority of the world will be fooled into thinking this is a good thing. If will bring on the false messiah of Satan.

Acts 2:38 to believe and Luke 21:34-36.

Beware when they (the world) says 'Peace and Security' - It will be a 7-year plan of 'Peace and Security'.

"Peace and Security" in regards to dividing Israel and creating a Palestinian state. I don't know that the 60th-year anniversary of the U.N. means anything specific but if you haven't seen the video before, you might find it interesting in light of the ESV verse above.

***** Peace and Security Video ***** (click here - opens in a new window) -

7 years of 'Peace and Security' - "Peace and Safety" KJV - "Peace and Security" RSV


1st Thessalonians 5:1-4 King James Version (KJV)

5 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.

2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

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25 posted on 10/24/2023 4:14:40 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: TigersEye

The future must NOT belong to those who slander and PERSECUTE Christians and Jews.


26 posted on 10/24/2023 4:50:54 AM PDT by telescope115 (I NEED MY SPACE!!! 🔭)
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To: SeekAndFind
He left out that Hamas also slaughtered defenseless men as well. And further that all of the slaughtered were defenseless, that is unarmed.

Unarmed because of decisions made by politicians to take their right to self defense away.

Coming to a town or city near you shortly.

27 posted on 10/24/2023 7:09:23 AM PDT by Flint
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To: TigersEye

No wonder his cook died he served pork.


28 posted on 10/24/2023 8:03:08 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: TigersEye

“The most beautiful sound in the world is the Muslim call to prayer at sundown.” — Obama, in his first book
“If the winds of change should blow in an ugly direction, I will always stand with the Muslims.” — Obama in his first book


29 posted on 10/24/2023 8:24:27 AM PDT by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: Vaduz

LOL

He made a BLT to die for!


30 posted on 10/24/2023 9:27:34 PM PDT by TigersEye (Our Republic is under seige by globalist Marxists. Hold fast!)
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