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Why US Businesses Can't Wait To Get Out Of China Now
Epoch Times ^ | 10/21/2023 | Terri Wu

Posted on 10/21/2023 9:16:50 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Foreign investments are leaving China.

Half of the $250 billion to $300 billion foreign bond investments since 2019 have exited, and U.S. private equity and venture capital investments in China have fallen by more than 50 percent, according to a JP Morgan report last month.

Foreign direct investment into China in the second quarter of this year reached a 25-year low at $4.9 billion, with a year-on-year decline of 87 percent, according to Chinese official data.

Bloomberg and fDi Markets data on new investment projects—a more telling indicator of whether foreign firms are still investing in the country—show a 40 percent drop, to $74 billion in 2020 from $120 billion in 2019, and an additional 45 percent decline to $41 billion in 2022—the lowest since 2010.

Although financial transactions are easy to track without much lag, it may take years for foreign direct investment data to reflect Western firms' diversifying away from China.

For this reason, Beijing might be unaware of how bad things really are as far as foreign direct investment, analysts of the Rhodium Group, a leading research firm on the Chinese economy, warned in a recent report.

Amidst a broader structural slowdown in China’s economy, the delayed reactions could contribute to further losses in productivity and economic growth,” the report stated.

The implied assumption here is that preventing economic losses is a priority for the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). However, some China experts challenge this.

“It's not that Xi Jinping and the CCP leadership hate economic growth—it's just not a priority,” Derek Scissors, chief economist of research firm China Beige Book and a senior fellow at the Washington-based think tank American Enterprise Institute, told The Epoch Times.

“The priority is control over the society, including the economy. So whenever there's a trade-off between economic control and growth, they choose control,” he said.

“And when we say, ‘Oh, you know, you could be growing faster. Why are you doing these things?’ The answer is obvious: It’s because that's not their priority.”

Mr. Scissors and other experts told The Epoch Times that overall economic growth isn’t at the top of the agenda for Chinese regime leader Xi Jinping. Instead, China is, by design, going through a paradigm shift in how it interacts with the global economy and is screening and filtering for foreign investors loyal to Mr. Xi.

As a result, China's overall political and business landscape defies past experience, they said, and Western interpretations will make the wrong assumptions on China—even more so than before.

3 Phases of Foreign Direct Investment

When U.S. Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo visited China in August, she warned that the country could become “uninvestable” if the unpredictable official behavior, such as raids on U.S. firms, don't cease. This year, Mintz Group’s Beijing office was raided in March, Bain & Co.’s Shanghai office in April, and Capvision Partners’s offices in multiple cities in May.

The Chinese business environment for U.S. companies wasn't always like this.

Mike Sun, a U.S.-based businessman with decades of experience advising foreign investors and traders doing business in China, recalled that the first generation of U.S. investors visited mainland China with a pioneering spirit. He spoke to The Epoch Times using an alias to protect his business in China.

In the early 1990s, he said a Jewish American businessman told him, “I want to be America’s Marco Polo,” referring to the Italian explorer who introduced Europeans to China. The businessman spoke fluent Mandarin and was married to a Chinese woman.

Back then, China was full of opportunities.

If investing in China in those years felt like an adventure, it became a no-brainer the next decade, from 2000 to 2012. One would have been foolish not to invest in China, Mr. Sun recalled.

The crowning glory for the communist regime was the 2008 Beijing Olympics, he said. When U.S. President George W. Bush and his family sat next to Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi at the China–United States basketball game, it became a symbol of the international community's acceptance of the CCP.

China had become the "world’s factory" after it joined the World Trade Organization in 2001. According to World Bank data, its share of global manufacturing value-add rose from 9 percent in 2004 to 22 percent in 2012 and 30 percent in 2022.

But Mr. Xi’s ascension in March 2013 heralded a different decade. In 2015, the leader started his industrial “Made in China 2025” plan, aiming for global dominance in advanced manufacturing sectors such as semiconductors and new energy.

To achieve this goal, the regime encouraged large-scale technology theft from Western countries.

In Mr. Sun’s view, Mr. Xi has reversed China’s integration into the rest of the world, a trend that had defined the previous two decades.

Xi doesn’t want China to be a second Russia,” Mr. Sun said.

Between 2014 and 2016, Russia suffered a financial crisis because of the sharp price decline of crude oil, a major export, and international sanctions as a result of its annexation of Crimea. Since then, Russia’s growth prospects have remained bleak because of challenges in diversifying its main industries and ongoing Western sanctions, according to European think tank Bruegel.

After Russia invaded Ukraine in February 2022, it was hit with more than 13,000 restrictions. The sanctions have severed Russia from advanced technology sectors abroad and forced the nation to resort again to energy commodities trading to sustain its economy growth, according to findings by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, a Washington-based think tank.

Mr. Sun said China’s changes have become more apparent in the past two to three years, coinciding with the COVID-19 pandemic, during which Mr. Xi largely completed his consolidation of power.

That’s what Meng Jun, a Chinese entrepreneur, said he experienced.

Mr. Meng had a rubber product business with an annual revenue of $15 million. In 2021, when the rest of the world reopened, his factory in Nanning, the capital of southern China’s Guangxi Province, began to receive orders again. However, he couldn't resume production because of the regime’s COVID-19 lockdowns.

Initially, he was able to bribe local officials so his factory could run at night while other factories had to remain shut. But later, no one would bend the rules because the officials didn’t want to lose their jobs over the possibility that a COVID-19 case would be traced back to an unauthorized factory operating under China’s zero-COVID policy. He lost millions.

He closed the business last year and left for the United States.

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1 posted on 10/21/2023 9:16:50 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Tesla is heavily invested in China. Their creative accounting states that large numbers of vehicles are produced and “sold” immedeatly to Chinese companies. It has yet to be proven that $1 dollar of profit has been transferred from China to a Tesla held Western bank accounts. Also China now has unrestricted access to Tesla patents, designs and manufacturing techniques which they use however they wish. Eventually the totality of this fiasco will be apparent and Tesla stock will drop like a stone in water.


2 posted on 10/21/2023 9:51:06 PM PDT by allendale
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To: SeekAndFind
“The priority is control over the society, including the economy. So whenever there's a trade-off between economic control and growth, they choose control,” he said.

The trade-off of everything is china is between "XXXXXX" and control over society.

3 posted on 10/21/2023 9:53:36 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: allendale

It can’t be proven because it can’t happen.

They don’t let anyone repatriate.


4 posted on 10/21/2023 10:17:25 PM PDT by Freest Republican (This space for rent)
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To: All

Getting rich during China’s boom – then fleeing as prospects darken

‘Things had gotten so bad in China,’ says one former CEO now in Florida.

By Wang Yun for RFA Mandarin
2023.06.24

https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/china-former-ceos-run-06232023135101.html


5 posted on 10/22/2023 12:12:05 AM PDT by SteveH
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To: SeekAndFind

Didn’t Lenin say something about rope and selling and hanging?


6 posted on 10/22/2023 12:45:09 AM PDT by Paul5
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To: SeekAndFind
Having our medications and cell phones made in China by people who don't like us is an incredibly stupid life style.

Cheap plastic crap that sells on an end-cap for 2 bucks, okay. Important things? Those should be made here.

7 posted on 10/22/2023 4:11:44 AM PDT by Bernard ("No matter where you go, there you are." (Buckaroo Banzai))
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To: SeekAndFind

Take down the CCP economically.


8 posted on 10/22/2023 4:25:19 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: SeekAndFind

bflr


9 posted on 10/22/2023 4:26:29 AM PDT by sauropod (Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.)
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To: Bernard

New cell phone advertised on War Room:

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10 posted on 10/22/2023 4:35:44 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("Normal" is never coming back.)
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To: Paul5
What China died between 1980 and 2020 by opening up their economy and permitting private enterprise and foreign investment was based on Lenin's New Economic Policy, where the Soviet dictator tacitly admitted that the centralized economy had failed. Stalin reverted to a command economy after assuming power. Xi waited a few years longer than Stalin did but used the COVID epidemic as a pretext to revert to neo-Maoism.
11 posted on 10/22/2023 4:48:02 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: SeekAndFind

The investments may be in the process of being recalled but the technology can not be taken out. And that is the real danger.

Thanks a lot Kissinger.


12 posted on 10/22/2023 4:52:51 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again," )
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To: fella
The investments may be in the process of being recalled but the technology can not be taken out. And that is the real danger. Thanks a lot Kissinger.

And the free traitors.

13 posted on 10/22/2023 5:34:06 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Will whoever keeps asking if this country can get any more insane please stop?)
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To: SeekAndFind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxjwb5cXTI0


14 posted on 10/22/2023 8:16:07 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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To: SeekAndFind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFaG8sKS3eg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFaG8sKS3eg


15 posted on 10/22/2023 8:22:12 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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To: allendale

China does not allow repatriation of profits.

Also, they have the same access to Tesla patents everyone else does - patents are public filings. They have access to some blueprints and manufacturing techniques, but there’s a lot of a Tesla that isn’t made in China, even the Chinese market ones.

A lot of the tech manufacturing being done overseas is because between the insane US enviro (and other) regs and past US citizen stupidity, it isn’t possible or practical to make many critical components here in the US any more.


16 posted on 10/22/2023 10:12:46 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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