Posted on 10/20/2023 11:59:49 AM PDT by Red Badger
Good observation.
I view this as the RINOs are jockeying around to please their constituencies.
No doubt that McCarthy needed removed. I’m a bit surprised it took only 8 to pull it off. Expected more support for the removal.
BUT, one would think the 8 and now 25 would have an EFFECTIVE PLAN to actually fill the vacancy they created. Chaos isn’t a plan for long term effectiveness.
Acting like a bunch of spoiled pampered toddlers throwing a temper tantrum makes the Republicans look STUPID.
“Imagine if the GOP fought this aggressively against Dems, instead of among themselves.”
And that’s the point of this exercise. As the GOP continues to review the election status of GOP reps, they have been continuing to select those that have placated the liberals and have rapidly lost everything the conservative base should be. If they take some extra time to find that diamond with the sharp edge that is willing to cut up the liberals, they get him/her. But not one that will step aside and let the liberals establish the house actions like so many have in the past. There is no unifying with the liberals. They don’t give anything and will go down with the ship doing it and harming the people. They’re no better than terrorists.
wy69
I’m down with it but this is likely to end when the Ratpukes tell the Repukes they’ll help once all of their demands are met and the Repukes fold entirely.
Maybe this WAS the plan.
Expose the RINOs for who and what they are for all to see..................
The Big Ugly battle over control of the Republican party in congress was always going to be big and ugly. We are witnessing the professional republican apparatus fight hard to retain the UniParty business model that affords them all the affluence and indulgence they are accustomed to.
By now we well understand the nature of the DC political system as a business model. Factually, that’s why congressional candidates spend millions to take a job earning a few hundred thousand. The business of DC political life is filled with background payments to politicians, family and friends. The business of DC politics provides a life of affluence that is disconnected from most understanding.
Jim Jordan lost his third effort to secure the House Speaker role in a floor vote earlier today. Following the floor vote, the republican caucus held a closed-door meeting and another secret ballot to determine if Jordan should continue. When they didn’t have to put their names in front of the public for scrutiny, 122 professional members of the republican party voted against Jordan, with only 86 votes in support of Jordan continuing. Jim Jordan from Ohio is done.
Within the voting and the turmoil, we see the axiom bell ring true.
This is the essential difference in the two wings of the UniParty apparatus.
♦ What becomes visible….
That’s what we are witnessing.
On the positive side, with each passing example more American voters are starting to understand the nature of the UniParty apparatus. Within this painful understanding you find the reason why support for Donald J Trump grows.
That’s also what we are witnessing.
WASHINGTON DC – In a shocking turn, Jim Jordan on Friday lost an internal GOP vote that was intended to show confidence in him remaining as his party’s speaker designee.
The Ohio Republican is now no longer his party’s pick to lead the House, a demise sealed by a GOP secret ballot just after his third failed floor vote as a speaker hopeful.
It was an unexpectedly fast end to the Ohio conservative’s candidacy to lead the chaos-ridden Republican conference — and a sign that the flailing party is fed up on its 17th day without a speaker. Lawmakers now plan to leave Washington for the weekend as the next round of ambitious Republicans decide whether to mount their own speaker bids.
But most Republicans acknowledge that even with new faces to consider, they still have no clear path to uniting their splintered conference. They have already rejected two speaker candidates — Jordan and House Majority Leader Steve Scalise — as well as former Speaker Kevin McCarthy during this month alone.
McCarthy gave voice to a sentiment that’s growing within the GOP: The party’s inability to run the half of Congress that it narrowly won doesn’t bode well for its broader future.
“I’m concerned about where we go from here,” said McCarthy, who had been backing Jordan. “It’s astonishing to me, and we are in a very bad position as a party.”
Jordan’s loss of the speaker nod from his party came as something of a surprise, since he had sought the internal vote with allies preparing to cite it as a show of continued support for his candidacy. Instead, the secret ballot revealed that while Jordan’s public opposition never topped 25 votes, scores more House Republicans wanted to see him out of the race.
[…] In all, 122 Republicans voted to boot Jordan as their party’s nominee, while 86 said he should remain their choice, according to two people familiar with the private discussions. Five members voted present. (read more)
Wall Street, the multinational corporations, the billionaire donors, the people who control the ‘illusion of choice’ mechanisms within the republican party apparatus, are all smiling. Meanwhile, Main Street USA is once again furious. But remember, the Wall Street group just doesn’t care. As long as they retain full control over the puppets in DC, including at least 122 Republicans in the House, the multinationals are happy.
The Big Ugly battle continues.
It’s a BIG CLUB, and we ain’t in it…. YET!
Government run on secrecy. Lovely. Whose bright idea was the secret ballot?
“Byron Donalds”
In a minute! We’d get some real change.
But I fear we might lose our thin majority in 2024.
No...not at all.
At the rate things are going, the next Speaker will be Rashida “I got beat with an ugly stick” Tlaib.
They haven’t won anything. The freedom caucus needs to withhold their votes on everyone going forward.
Your partial support is enough to feel the good vibes of winning. No Speaker is changing the House forever. There is no going back from No Speaker. And if and when they select a Speaker, the Speaker's power will be weak like a fallen leaf. No Speaker has WON.
They don't just look stupid -- they are stupid.
The secret ballot is one of our principles, which of course is regularly violated by the left with their leaks, doxxing, etc.
Let’s not do it ourselves.
The real problem is why Gaetz didn’t actually ensure that he had the support lined up before starting this.
And the fundamental problem is that the GOP doesn’t act like a real party. Like it or not, we’ve got to get together and work out realistic programs - basically, the platform - and fight out our differences privately.
MAGA folks are no better than RINOs. The Dems know how to keep their fights private and win strategically, but we don’t because we’re all about gratifying the ego of the “Great Leader” of our particular party fragment.
Well said, FRiend! They have managed to piss away their limited time as a majority, and the respect of their voters, which we now know they never respected us.
Ellsey from TX has to go.
Dem light.
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