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Israel-Hamas war live updates: Grim update: 1,400 Israelis dead, 30 abductees are kids
NBC News ^ | October 20, 2023

Posted on 10/20/2023 8:59:06 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

About two weeks into the Israeli-Hamas war, the Israeli Prime Minister's office has released some grim new arithmetic: 1,400 Israelis dead, 4,800 injured, and "at least 30 of the abductees are children under the age of 16."

"Two weeks have passed since the attack on the seventh of October," the briefing began. "Israel demands the release of the abductees without conditions. We want our children at home."

The Israeli Defense Force has also confirmed that 10 to 20 of the 203 kidnapped Israelis are 60 years old or older, the prime minister's office said. And it said some 7,380 missiles "have been launched towards Israel."

In retaliation, the prime minister's office said "over 100 targets in Gaza were attacked during the night, including underground tunnels and Hamas headquarters. A senior Hamas operative was eliminated."

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: hamas; israeliranhamaswar; wot

1 posted on 10/20/2023 8:59:06 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

911 killed just over 3000.
Equivalent to 30k considering population differences.


2 posted on 10/20/2023 9:07:04 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

And yet terrorist supporters flood the chambers of congress led by Palestinian terrorist sympathizers elected as congress members themselves.


3 posted on 10/20/2023 9:09:14 AM PDT by patriot torch (..)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yet almost the entirety of the Mainstream Media and Social Media are firmly on the side of Hamas, and absolutely nothing will make them budge.


4 posted on 10/20/2023 9:10:11 AM PDT by Kriggerel ("All great truths are hard and bitter, but lies... are sweeter than wild honey" (Ragnar Redbeard))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If the live cams in Gaza are believable, the attacks are continuing.


5 posted on 10/20/2023 9:10:30 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

War hysteria is running hot enough. Would these Hamas animals be willing enough to martyr half of Gaza City by beheading atrocities? If the aim is total regional war, that would do it.


6 posted on 10/20/2023 9:11:26 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I’m not a student of history, but I would be hard pressed to find a more persecuted and targeted people then the Jews.

John 15:20-22
King James Version

20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.

21 But all these things will they do unto you for my name’s sake, because they know not him that sent me.

22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloak for their sin.


7 posted on 10/20/2023 9:13:24 AM PDT by patriot torch (..)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

One of the scenes in the raw video was a body cam as the IDF went through a house that had been ransacked by HAMAS. The heartbreaking part was when they went into the bathroom and next to the toilet was a little kid toilet. And then they moved on to the bedroom and there was tons of blood in the bed.

Like I said in a previous post. Monsters.


8 posted on 10/20/2023 9:13:31 AM PDT by cuban leaf (It is easier to fool a man than to convince him he's being fooled. - Mark Twain)
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To: patriot torch

That refers to believers.


9 posted on 10/20/2023 9:14:30 AM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM! Trump 2024, NO more Mr Nice)
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To: VanShuyten

Hamas, as per usual, launching rockets from UNRWA schools and shelters. Israelis too fearful of US and UN to clean them out.


10 posted on 10/20/2023 9:20:52 AM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

And these idiots want Israel to be more forgiving and not attack Hamas. How quickly we forget our 9/11.


11 posted on 10/20/2023 10:03:00 AM PDT by DownInFlames (P)
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To: Zathras

>>Equivalent to 30k considering population differences.

I’ve wondered what the appropriate metric for murder is.

Is it constant, such that 1 murder is just as bad as any number?

Is it linear, such that 2 murders are twice as bad as one?

Is it logarithmic, such that 100 murders are twice as bad as 10?

Is it proportional, such that murdering 2% of a group is twice as bad as murdering 1% of a group that is twice as large, even though the number of murders is the same?


12 posted on 10/20/2023 10:12:05 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Is there any information about how many of the dead and hostage are civilian versus military?

IIRC, some military were captured on the first day.


13 posted on 10/20/2023 10:13:55 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter

you sound very young and immature, to treat deaths in such a trivial way

Hamas are monsters, OK?


14 posted on 10/20/2023 10:16:30 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: FarCenter

Excellent point! I’m so sick of the tired 9/11 statistical equivocations. I know Hannity is going to parrot that for the next year now.


15 posted on 10/20/2023 11:15:41 AM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: canuck_conservative

It’s a serious question. The MSM treats murder very differently depending on how many were murdered, their identity, the size of their community, the motives of the murderer, etc.

Is such treatment valid?

Are “mass murders” (4 or more by the same murderer) worse than an individual murderer?

Is the murder of a rabbi in a synagogue worse than a bodega owner in his store? How about if it’s the bodega owner and three clerks?

Since Ukraine is about 4 times larger than Israel, are 40,000 dead Ukrainian soldiers equal to 10,000 dead IDF soldiers? Or 140,000 dead Russians?


16 posted on 10/20/2023 11:41:57 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter

It all depends on the narrative they want to put out.....Dems slaughter innocent people every day and media doesn’t care ....Dems treat military like garbage and media doesn’t care....... dems allow shootings and looting and destruction and media doesn’t care........Buuuuuuuuut,one white cop shoots one black criminal and all hell reigns down from the media.....


17 posted on 10/20/2023 11:54:18 AM PDT by Hambone 1934 (Dems love playing Nazis.....The republicans love helping them)
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