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House Speaker election live updates: 20 Republicans decline to back Jim Jordan; minority leader Hakeem Jeffries of NY gets 212 votes to his 200
The New York Post ^ | 10/17/2023 | Kaydi Pelletier et al

Posted on 10/17/2023 11:43:07 AM PDT by thegagline

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Oh.) fell short of the 217 votes needed to succeed ousted Kevin McCarthy as the next Speaker of the House, on the first ballot Tuesday — making a second ballot necessary.

House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY.) bested Jordan, drawing 212 votes to Jordan’s 200. There were 20 votes for other candidates.

The night before Tuesday’s vote, several Republican lawmakers emerged from a House GOP conference meeting saying that they won’t vote for Jordan, 59.

Jordan, however, came out of the meeting confident that he will be elected speaker of the House on Tuesday — despite at least six GOP lawmakers still opposed to his nomination and others undecided.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: deepstate; gopestablishment; leadership; nevertrumper; nevertrumpingtroll; republicans; rinos; speaker; uniparty
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To: thegagline

Who cares if there is no speaker? This shitshow was just to prove that no one like Jordan will ever be elevated to a position of power. Now we are supposed to sit down, shut up, and vote for the RINO du jour.


61 posted on 10/17/2023 1:38:18 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: thegagline

Note: the GOP conservatives outnumber the GOPe mulligans


62 posted on 10/17/2023 1:40:45 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: OHPatriot

We need solid majority first!!!
What does it give us, if we get 200 Patriots in Congress, if the Dems will have majority. And with Dems having Senate and Presidency, those 200 Patriots will be as good as None!


63 posted on 10/17/2023 1:42:41 PM PDT by AZJeep
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To: Phoenix8
" I wonder if there is any way (besides normal vote) the repubs can boot the turn coat RINOs out of office?"

An excellent question.

Can they be recalled?

Can their Constituents demand they resign?

And since we have a thieving, lying, third world, criminal, government in operation: Have they possibly been paid off (i.e. made any large purchases recently exc...) ?

Is there evidence of any other type of shady dealings?

🤔

64 posted on 10/17/2023 1:45:57 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nationsl. Never be slavhat e in a new Socia. list America )
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To: entropy12

You may be right. But the next step is still an election. Beyond that, barring major changes all bets are off. But that doesn’t change the truth. I think we both see that. As I said, there is chaos ahead no matter who is calling the shots. Change won’t come with political nicety, agreed. Figuratively, we’re using hatchets and knives now. What lies down the road will be what it will be.


65 posted on 10/17/2023 1:46:29 PM PDT by Paraclete
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To: AZJeep

You mean the 8 who finally quit playing the DC Game of #MetoRinosim?

Here is how the game is played in DC. The US House GOP is told “oh you have to only pass bills that the Senate will vote for and the White House will sign”.

The result is the House GOP consistently passes hard Left Democrats Legislation to “get things done”. The Democrat get all the political benefits while the GOP gets all the blame from the voters. This game has got to stop being played by the GOP. This is a chance to do that.


66 posted on 10/17/2023 1:46:57 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Don't blame me, my congressman is MTG!)
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To: thegagline
If Democrat Leader Hakeem Jeffries becomes Speaker because of these 20 morons they will be on wrong side of history and history will not forgive them.
67 posted on 10/17/2023 1:48:40 PM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: PA Presbyterian

Zero chance of that happening

The RINOS will just have to do what they told Conservatives for 2 decades. You will just have to hold your nose when you vote.

So hold they can hold their noses and vote for Jordan for the “good of the party”


68 posted on 10/17/2023 1:49:51 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Don't blame me, my congressman is MTG!)
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To: thegagline; All
Thank you for referencing that article thegagline.

"House Speaker election live updates: 20 Republicans decline to back Jim Jordan; minority leader Hakeem Jeffries of NY gets 212 votes to his 200"


Given that one of the very few powers that the states have actually expressly constitutionally given to Congress to define domestic policy is to run the US Mail Service, it's amazing to see the very corrupt, constitutionally undefined political parties fighting for control of House Speaker in order dictate policy for the mail service. /semi-sarc

In other words, most federal domestic policy is based on state powers, and uniquely associated state revenues, that the corrupt federal government regularly steals from the states and citizens' wallets.

State revenues and taxpayers' wallets, of taxpayers who actually pay taxes, are stolen in the form of unconstitutional federal taxes, taxes that the Supreme Court has clarified that Congress cannot reasonably justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers and a few other constitutionally enumerated expenses.

"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

The bottom line about our unconstitutionally big federal government is this. Democratic and Republican Trump-supporting patriots need to primary ALL incumbent state and federal lawmakers and executives up for reelection in 2024, except for MTG, Gaetz, Jordan (and others?), replacing them with patriot lawmakers endorsed by Trump from lists that patriots who respect the federal government's constitutionally limited powers give to Trump.

69 posted on 10/17/2023 1:54:45 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: thegagline

I just called my Cong. Nick Lakota, to voice my objection to his vote for Zeldin. I hope he gets primaried next year, what a jerk along with his two pals from LI. RINOS should be dumped.


70 posted on 10/17/2023 1:54:59 PM PDT by kenmcg (ti hi o)
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To: thegagline

I assume we will see the articles this evening complaining about the hold-outs and their failure to stick with the majority. Right? Those dozen turn-coats will be vilified by all the usual suspects for “fracturing” the party and voting against the leadership. National Review is preparing their article for posting. We should see it any minute now. Right?

No? Why not?


71 posted on 10/17/2023 1:55:21 PM PDT by CFW (I will not comply!)
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To: entropy12

“Republicans match classic definition of cannibalism.
Democrats never eat their own.
I got to give it to DUmmies. Not a single post attacking any democrat. FR posters delight in attacking so called RINO’s.”

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Agreed.
We Republicans are bad at politics, because we are way too egocentric, naive, undisciplined, adventurous and philosophical. We are day-dreamers.
That weakens our chances against a monolithic and robotic block which doesn’t think. It just follows orders and vote accordingly, always in perfect unity.
It’s not very humane, but it’s a system that built for absolute POWER. And nothing else than POWER.

We Republicans want a more perfect society, we care less about absoute power, that’s why we often lose against the robots.


72 posted on 10/17/2023 2:28:27 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: bboise
I also live in Idaho lots of rinos here.

Yup. Democrats often run as "Republicans" in the hope that the "R" will buy them a vote from people who don't know their disingenuous nature. One of the smelly things in Idaho politics is "voter initiatives". They are often put on the ballot by leftist organizations and draw votes from people who would benefit at the expense of people who have to pay the costs. Too many parasites like the process. The medicaid initiative was the last ugly one. Expect the left to try pushing "ranked choice voting" by initiative.

73 posted on 10/17/2023 2:29:12 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Dandy

Not as long as Deep State is in control.


74 posted on 10/17/2023 2:34:18 PM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: USA-FRANCE

The people who just want to be left alone will always lose to the people who want to rule.

Either you rule, or you will be ruled.

There isn’t any third choice.

But too many “Constitutional Conservatives” and libertarians cannot bring themselves to acknowledge that fact. So the Right continues to lose.


75 posted on 10/17/2023 2:35:13 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: thegagline

If this is their final answer it’s going to destroy the already worthless Republican party.


76 posted on 10/17/2023 2:35:47 PM PDT by OKSooner (Be especially sure to take extra wool socks.)
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To: Reverend Wright

“The people who just want to be left alone will always lose to the people who want to rule.”

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Excellent explanation!
Agreed.


77 posted on 10/17/2023 2:41:53 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: thegagline

What a bunch of LOSERS! GROW UP! MCCARTHY AND SCALISE ARENT RUNNING!


78 posted on 10/17/2023 2:53:02 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: PA Presbyterian

Get real...MCCARTHY did NOTHING GOOD.


79 posted on 10/17/2023 2:54:10 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

So long as they are fighting, there won’t be any new spending which is fine by me.

That said, there is talk that Lee Zeldin’s name is being tossed around as a potential speaker.


80 posted on 10/17/2023 3:05:42 PM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024)
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