Posted on 10/17/2023 11:43:07 AM PDT by thegagline
Who cares if there is no speaker? This shitshow was just to prove that no one like Jordan will ever be elevated to a position of power. Now we are supposed to sit down, shut up, and vote for the RINO du jour.
Note: the GOP conservatives outnumber the GOPe mulligans
We need solid majority first!!!
What does it give us, if we get 200 Patriots in Congress, if the Dems will have majority. And with Dems having Senate and Presidency, those 200 Patriots will be as good as None!
An excellent question.
Can they be recalled?
Can their Constituents demand they resign?
And since we have a thieving, lying, third world, criminal, government in operation: Have they possibly been paid off (i.e. made any large purchases recently exc...) ?
Is there evidence of any other type of shady dealings?
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You may be right. But the next step is still an election. Beyond that, barring major changes all bets are off. But that doesn’t change the truth. I think we both see that. As I said, there is chaos ahead no matter who is calling the shots. Change won’t come with political nicety, agreed. Figuratively, we’re using hatchets and knives now. What lies down the road will be what it will be.
You mean the 8 who finally quit playing the DC Game of #MetoRinosim?
Here is how the game is played in DC. The US House GOP is told “oh you have to only pass bills that the Senate will vote for and the White House will sign”.
The result is the House GOP consistently passes hard Left Democrats Legislation to “get things done”. The Democrat get all the political benefits while the GOP gets all the blame from the voters. This game has got to stop being played by the GOP. This is a chance to do that.
Zero chance of that happening
The RINOS will just have to do what they told Conservatives for 2 decades. You will just have to hold your nose when you vote.
So hold they can hold their noses and vote for Jordan for the “good of the party”
"House Speaker election live updates: 20 Republicans decline to back Jim Jordan; minority leader Hakeem Jeffries of NY gets 212 votes to his 200"
Given that one of the very few powers that the states have actually expressly constitutionally given to Congress to define domestic policy is to run the US Mail Service, it's amazing to see the very corrupt, constitutionally undefined political parties fighting for control of House Speaker in order dictate policy for the mail service. /semi-sarc
"Article I, Section 8, Clause 7: To establish Post Offices and post Roads;"
From the congressional record, consider Rep. John Bingham's statement about the vast, 10th Amendment powers of the states to serve the people, Bingham a constitutional lawmaker:
”Simply this, that the care of the property, the liberty, and the life of the citizen, under the solemn sanction of an oath imposed by your Constitution, is in the States and not in the federal government [emphases added]. I have sought to effect no change in that respect in the Constitution of the country.” —John Bingham, Congressional. Globe. 1866, page 1292 (see top half of third column)
"From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added]." —United States v. Butler, 1936.
In other words, most federal domestic policy is based on state powers, and uniquely associated state revenues, that the corrupt federal government regularly steals from the states and citizens' wallets.
State revenues and taxpayers' wallets, of taxpayers who actually pay taxes, are stolen in the form of unconstitutional federal taxes, taxes that the Supreme Court has clarified that Congress cannot reasonably justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers and a few other constitutionally enumerated expenses.
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
The bottom line about our unconstitutionally big federal government is this. Democratic and Republican Trump-supporting patriots need to primary ALL incumbent state and federal lawmakers and executives up for reelection in 2024, except for MTG, Gaetz, Jordan (and others?), replacing them with patriot lawmakers endorsed by Trump from lists that patriots who respect the federal government's constitutionally limited powers give to Trump.
I just called my Cong. Nick Lakota, to voice my objection to his vote for Zeldin. I hope he gets primaried next year, what a jerk along with his two pals from LI. RINOS should be dumped.
I assume we will see the articles this evening complaining about the hold-outs and their failure to stick with the majority. Right? Those dozen turn-coats will be vilified by all the usual suspects for “fracturing” the party and voting against the leadership. National Review is preparing their article for posting. We should see it any minute now. Right?
No? Why not?
“Republicans match classic definition of cannibalism.
Democrats never eat their own.
I got to give it to DUmmies. Not a single post attacking any democrat. FR posters delight in attacking so called RINO’s.”
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Agreed.
We Republicans are bad at politics, because we are way too egocentric, naive, undisciplined, adventurous and philosophical. We are day-dreamers.
That weakens our chances against a monolithic and robotic block which doesn’t think. It just follows orders and vote accordingly, always in perfect unity.
It’s not very humane, but it’s a system that built for absolute POWER. And nothing else than POWER.
We Republicans want a more perfect society, we care less about absoute power, that’s why we often lose against the robots.
Yup. Democrats often run as "Republicans" in the hope that the "R" will buy them a vote from people who don't know their disingenuous nature. One of the smelly things in Idaho politics is "voter initiatives". They are often put on the ballot by leftist organizations and draw votes from people who would benefit at the expense of people who have to pay the costs. Too many parasites like the process. The medicaid initiative was the last ugly one. Expect the left to try pushing "ranked choice voting" by initiative.
Not as long as Deep State is in control.
The people who just want to be left alone will always lose to the people who want to rule.
Either you rule, or you will be ruled.
There isn’t any third choice.
But too many “Constitutional Conservatives” and libertarians cannot bring themselves to acknowledge that fact. So the Right continues to lose.
If this is their final answer it’s going to destroy the already worthless Republican party.
“The people who just want to be left alone will always lose to the people who want to rule.”
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Excellent explanation!
Agreed.
What a bunch of LOSERS! GROW UP! MCCARTHY AND SCALISE ARENT RUNNING!
Get real...MCCARTHY did NOTHING GOOD.
So long as they are fighting, there won’t be any new spending which is fine by me.
That said, there is talk that Lee Zeldin’s name is being tossed around as a potential speaker.
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