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KARI LAKE LOSES VOTING CASE IN 9TH CIRCUIT COURT
9th Circuit Court ^ | 10/16/2023 | 9th Circuit Court

Posted on 10/16/2023 9:23:20 PM PDT by aimhigh

The panel affirmed the district court’s dismissal for lack of standing of an action, brought before the 2022 general election by former Republican nominees for Governor and Secretary of State of Arizona, alleging that Arizona’s use of electronic tabulation systems violated the federal Constitution.

The gravamen of Plaintiffs’ operative complaint is that notwithstanding safeguards, electronic tabulation systems are particularly susceptible to hacking by non-governmental actors who intend to influence election results. On appeal, Plaintiffs conceded that their arguments were limited to potential future hacking, and not based on any past harm. The panel held that because Plaintiffs are no longer nominated candidates for state office and no longer seek relief related to the 2022 election, they likely now lacked standing on that ground. But even assuming Plaintiffs could continue to claim standing as prospective voters in future elections, they had not alleged a particularized injury and therefore failed to establish the kind of injury Article III requires.

None of Plaintiffs’ allegations supported a plausible inference that their individual votes in future elections will be adversely affected by the use of electronic tabulation, particularly given the robust safeguards in Arizona law, the use of paper ballots, and the post-tabulation retention of those ballots. The panel concluded that speculative allegations that voting machines may be hackable were insufficient to establish an injury in fact under Article III.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; Your Opinion/Questions
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To: roving

I can’t see her winning the Senate either. They’ve turned her into another Sarah Palin.


21 posted on 10/16/2023 11:26:03 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical objects )
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To: aimhigh

This is getting ridiculous. Who, theoretically, would have standing in a vote fraud case, if not the candidate who lost because of it?


22 posted on 10/16/2023 11:29:09 PM PDT by servantoftheservant
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To: aimhigh

The vax is to blame!
Any one stupid enough to take it has no standing...


23 posted on 10/17/2023 12:06:12 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is the next Sam Adams when we so desperately need him)
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To: servantoftheservant
***This is getting ridiculous***

I am a bit surprised the 9th Circus didn't condemn her to death...

24 posted on 10/17/2023 12:31:26 AM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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To: aimhigh

“The panel held that because Plaintiffs are no longer nominated candidates for state office and no longer seek relief related to the 2022 election, they likely now lacked standing on that ground.“

Effing criminals. Can’t sue before because nothing has happened yet. Can’t oppose it during the steal lest that be insurrection. And afterwards, Eddy you aren’t a candidate anymore do you have no standing. So the ballot box isn’t an effective method of controlling our criminal government. The soap box and peaceful assembly gets you arrested. The jury box is corrupted and simply devoted to you.

Quite a pickle.


25 posted on 10/17/2023 12:37:28 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: DesertRhino

Complete BS


26 posted on 10/17/2023 12:40:58 AM PDT by antceecee
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To: Macho MAGA Man

In a 3-way race she has a solid chance of winning. The Democratic Nominee and Sinema will split the Democratic vote and if Lake can unify the entire Republican Party she can win.

In this particular case, the outcome should not surprise anyone, if you add up all the cases filed by Trump, Lake and other Republicans, they have not won a single case.

What everyone believes and what’s legally provable are two different things.

Her allegation was voting machines violate the Constitution, the obvious question is how.

The answer is, voting machines can be hacked, if you allege that, you must show proof beyond a reasonable doubt, as far as I can tell from this case and all the others, no one has been able to do that.

I catch all kinds of hell on FR for saying this, I don’t think electronic voting machines are the problem.

The same thing could be said for Biden, did he get 81 million votes, the answer is 81 million paper ballots went thru the machines of the 81 million votes counted how many were legitimate, probably not close to 81 million.

Electronic machines doesn’t county authenticity, they count pieces of paper, not are the ballots legitimate.

Until you clean of the voter rolls and deal with mail in ballots and ballot harvesting electronic machines are the least of your worries.


27 posted on 10/17/2023 12:51:44 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: Macho MAGA Man

In a 3-way race she has a solid chance of winning. The Democratic Nominee and Sinema will split the Democratic vote and if Lake can unify the entire Republican Party she can win.

In this particular case, the outcome should not surprise anyone, if you add up all the cases filed by Trump, Lake and other Republicans, they have not won a single case.

What everyone believes and what’s legally provable are two different things.

Her allegation was voting machines violate the Constitution, the obvious question is how.

The answer is, voting machines can be hacked, if you allege that, you must show proof beyond a reasonable doubt, as far as I can tell from this case and all the others, no one has been able to do that.

I catch all kinds of hell on FR for saying this, I don’t think electronic voting machines are the problem.

The same thing could be said for Biden, did he get 81 million votes, the answer is 81 million paper ballots went thru the machines of the 81 million votes counted how many were legitimate, probably not close to 81 million.

Electronic machines doesn’t county authenticity, they count pieces of paper, not are the ballots legitimate.

Until you clean of the voter rolls and deal with mail in ballots and ballot harvesting electronic machines are the least of your worries.


28 posted on 10/17/2023 12:51:44 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: antceecee

How so?


29 posted on 10/17/2023 12:57:05 AM PDT by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical objects )
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To: Macho MAGA Man

If you cannot discern the irony of this injustice then you are beyond anything I could ever explain to you.


30 posted on 10/17/2023 1:00:00 AM PDT by antceecee
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To: KC_Conspirator

[Liberal judges protect democrat party again.]

I remember when we once had a country. Boy, that was a long time ago.


31 posted on 10/17/2023 1:18:39 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: \/\/ayne
< Az expected; now on to the AZ Supreme Court, then the US Supreme Court.

It is evident that ignorance doesn’t prevent you from spouting off an opinion.

32 posted on 10/17/2023 1:42:08 AM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024)
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To: Darksheare

Reading the article it seems that when Plaintiff was asked about any harm done to them they could not specify.
Being an AZ resident and seeing what transpired, it seems to me that the arguments are so complex that the effort would not shed light on what actually occurred. I think since they (Lake’s attorneys) couldn’t obtain actual numbers of what were deemed illegitimate votes is why this is hung up. Again, the effort to obfuscate what happened has been allowed to take place without a challenge is what this sounds like. Not challenging effort to obfuscate gives no evidence of malfeasance or other criminal activity. The arguments all focused on process. My perspective in AZ - I hear nothing about what exactly happened to call the election a fraud (which I believe it was in AZ) - the ‘not having standing’ argument against Plaintiffs is the hole you fall in without the actual evidence. That is just my guess. I also do believe the first weeks of validating the AZ vote exposed that real ‘pressure’ was being brought on those that wanted to cry foul. The initial push was efficiently put down by that ‘pressure’. Assume what you want - either a lot of corrupt/compromised elected placeholders or real threats of harm to family/friends/self. I don’t doubt any of it.


33 posted on 10/17/2023 1:43:45 AM PDT by linedrive
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To: servantoftheservant
Who, theoretically, would have standing in a vote fraud case, if not the candidate who lost because of it?

On appeal, Lake wasn’t seeking relief regarding the 2022 election. (See Page 1, Paragraph 2 of the Opinion)

34 posted on 10/17/2023 1:46:47 AM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024)
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To: aimhigh

The lack of standing rulings lack standing in the publics eye.


35 posted on 10/17/2023 1:55:41 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again," )
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To: DesertRhino

WE ALL know what box is next.


36 posted on 10/17/2023 1:58:58 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: DesertRhino

Bump!


37 posted on 10/17/2023 2:02:46 AM PDT by antceecee
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To: fella

Amen


38 posted on 10/17/2023 2:03:19 AM PDT by antceecee
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To: linedrive

I don’t doubt it either.
Just so disgusted with our judiciary branch and how gutless they have been.


39 posted on 10/17/2023 2:41:22 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: aimhigh

Imagine a bank trying to sue a crook who robbed it and the judge says: “Since it happened in the past and you no longer have the money you have no standing.”


40 posted on 10/17/2023 2:45:05 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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