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Senior Hamas Official Ali Baraka: We Have Been Secretly Planning The Invasion For Two Years; Russia Sympathizes With Us, Benefits From U.S. Embroilment In This War; Any Swap Deal Should Include Hamas Prisoners In Europe And The U.S.
MEMRI ^ | Oct 08, 2023 | Unnamed

Posted on 10/12/2023 4:03:15 AM PDT by tlozo

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To: Ultra Sonic 007
It was after that when Russia - who reached out to Hamas and inquired as to what was going on [since Russia has diplomatic relations with both Israel and the Palestinian Authority] - was informed out Hamas’ goals.

AND Russia sent Hamas messages with sympathy


21 posted on 10/12/2023 4:32:11 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

I’ll be charitable and say canuck simply misunderstood what was said. It can happen to anyone.

(But the fact it said a meeting with Turkey occurred at 9 am should have been a clear indicator, since all timelines currently available show Hamas beginning its attacks at around 6:30 am local time.)


22 posted on 10/12/2023 4:35:32 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: tlozo

“Why wouldn’t it conduct a prisoner swap with us?”

Because our criminal justice system and armed forces would not be able to effectively defend against terrorist and criminal organizations.

We will have to upgrade our legal system based on RICO principles so terrorists and criminals can be retried and sentenced to death when hostages are executed.


23 posted on 10/12/2023 4:37:07 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: tlozo

Began planning when Joe got ‘elected’


24 posted on 10/12/2023 4:37:15 AM PDT by SMARTY (“Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face.” Thomas Sowell)
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To: canuck_conservative

Wasn’t 9 AM two or three hours AFTER the attack had started?


25 posted on 10/12/2023 4:42:07 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: tlozo

Seated planning shortly after Biden seized office. Hm.


26 posted on 10/12/2023 4:43:22 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative)
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To: tlozo

Russia has diplomatic relations with Israel and the Palestinian Authority, and have long advocated for a two-state solution to the decades-long feud between the Israelis and the Palestinians.

So what does Baraka mean by “they sympathize with” Hamas? That could run the gamut between diplomatic boilerplate to full-throated support for the destruction of Israel. (I personally veer towards the former.)

Unless Hamas releases the direct contents of the messages, I doubt we’ll ever know for sure.


27 posted on 10/12/2023 4:43:59 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: tlozo

Planning for 2 years since 2021


28 posted on 10/12/2023 4:44:55 AM PDT by Bayard
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook
So we are now believing what Hamas says?

Nazis liked to brag about what they did, too


29 posted on 10/12/2023 4:45:05 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: hinckley buzzard

After Biden resumed aid funding of hundreds of millions to Palestine in 2021, there’s a news story in May of 2021 where its says Hamas were getting support from Iran a month after the funding resumed.


30 posted on 10/12/2023 4:46:20 AM PDT by Bayard
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SO, BOTH TURKEY AND RUSSIA KNEW AHEAD OF TIME ABOUT THE HAMAS ATTACK, AND SAID NOTHING

How do you obtain the exact opposite of what was written? The article clearly says no one knew about the attack until *after* it started.

31 posted on 10/12/2023 4:46:31 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook
What, you mean neocons LIE?!

Sure, Russia doesn't support Hamas. Okay


32 posted on 10/12/2023 4:46:40 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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Hamas also has AR’s, sorry but nations will sell arms to anybody


33 posted on 10/12/2023 4:49:48 AM PDT by Rattlesnake_Snook
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To: Bayard

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-palestinians-usa-exclusive/exclusive-u-s-to-restore-more-than-200-million-in-aid-to-palestinians-sources-idUSKBN2BU23M

April 7, 2021
Exclusive: U.S. to restore more than $200 million in aid to Palestinians - sources

Next month May 20th,

With Iranian Help, Hamas Builds ‘Made in Gaza’ Rockets and Drones to Target Israel

https://www.wsj.com/articles/with-iranian-help-hamas-builds-made-in-gaza-rockets-and-drones-to-target-israel-11621535346


34 posted on 10/12/2023 4:49:49 AM PDT by Bayard
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To: canuck_conservative

This is all because the psychopaths running this country won’t kill the satanic pedophiles running this country. KILL THEM and things will get better. God has no problem with killing satanic pedophiles. If there are any GOOD people in the deep state... KILL THE SATANIC PEDOPHILES.


35 posted on 10/12/2023 4:50:54 AM PDT by WinstonSmith1984
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To: canuck_conservative; Rattlesnake_Snook
but, that was before all this new info came out. let’s what the response to THIS is

You have the order of events reversed (again).

This interview with Baraka aired on October 8.

The article regarding Israel stating it had no evidence Russia was involved with the attack was published on October 11.

36 posted on 10/12/2023 4:52:37 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: tlozo

Okay, so Russia secretly welcomes this war as a distraction from the Ukraine situation. Should we be surprised? If outside forces effect a coup in Ukraine 2014 and Russia feels threatened by an expanding NATO, and missiles are being lobbed across the border into Russian territory, drones are being flown into Moscow.... Of course it’s all a tragedy.


37 posted on 10/12/2023 4:53:15 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Prayers for America.)
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook
Hamas also has AR’s, sorry but nations will sell arms to anybody

LOL, so Colt sells AR's to Hamas? Idiocy.

Kalashnikov is 26% owned by the Russian government so a contract allowing Hamas a license to manufacture bullets in Gaza came with Russian government approval.

38 posted on 10/12/2023 4:56:02 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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“Kalashnikov is 26% owned by the Russian government so a contract allowing Hamas a license to manufacture bullets in Gaza came with Russian government approval.”

If Hamas is manufacturing arms and arming their people while Israel does not do the same, what does that say about Israel’s disdain for their people to own firearms?


39 posted on 10/12/2023 4:58:59 AM PDT by Rattlesnake_Snook
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To: tlozo

You don’t need any “license from Russia” to produce “bullets for Kalashnikovs”. He’s full of it.


40 posted on 10/12/2023 5:02:52 AM PDT by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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