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The world cannot afford another war
The Daily Star ^

Posted on 10/08/2023 11:23:52 AM PDT by FarCenter

After months of rising tensions between Israel and Palestine, aided by criminal neglect from the international community towards the Palestinians' calls for justice, the conflict-ridden region is now spiralling into a full-blown war. Palestine's militant group Hamas, backed by Iran, launched the deadliest attack in Israel in 50 years, killing 600 people as of 8:30pm Sunday (Bangladesh time). In retaliation, Israel launched strikes in the Gaza Strip; the Palestinian death toll has already crossed 350. While we condemn the senseless violence at any cost, the violence committed by Hamas cannot be judged by the same yardstick as the violence that Israel has committed over the years for the maintenance of discrimination and oppression in the Palestinian lands. We must acknowledge the root cause behind the so-called "surprise" attack by Hamas, which lies in decades of systemic destruction committed by Israel.


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Forget about moving supply chains out of China to Bangladesh.

(But where are we going to get cheap clothing?)

1 posted on 10/08/2023 11:23:52 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter

Sometimes war is upon you, whether you want it or not.


2 posted on 10/08/2023 11:27:46 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: FarCenter
The knives are out for Israel today.
3 posted on 10/08/2023 11:28:58 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: FarCenter

This is about Iran, nukes, and they are going to use em. Hammas is just a lead in protagonist taking point.


4 posted on 10/08/2023 11:29:37 AM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) My dog Sam eats purple flowers.)
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To: FarCenter

Well, it’s going to. Wish some government would level the Daily Star offices and bulldoze what’s left. I could go on, but must save the best as a surprise.


5 posted on 10/08/2023 11:30:44 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Magnum44

Jesse Jackson: “we can’t afford not to.” His subject was the war on poverty and poverty won.


6 posted on 10/08/2023 11:30:46 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (e allowed )
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To: FarCenter

“...the root cause behind the so-called “surprise” attack by Hamas...the violence committed by Hamas cannot be judged by the same yardstick as the violence that Israel has committed...”


So it really wasn’t a surprise attack and it was completely justified because...Israel exists. And it isn’t really fair to ‘use the same yardstick’ when it comes to judging violence that includes dragging raped women’s bodies through the streets to shouts of ‘Aloha Snackbar’ because...Islam.


7 posted on 10/08/2023 11:31:51 AM PDT by hanamizu ( )
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To: FarCenter
the violence committed by Hamas cannot be judged by the same yardstick as the violence that Israel has committed over the years

I must have missed the part where Israelis kidnapped and killed women and children, and paraded their bodies in the street.
I must have missed the part where Israelis murdered people in their cars and on the streets.
I guess I missed the part where Israel launched indiscriminate rocket attacks into civilian domestic centers.

Maybe the MSM just aren't reporting those things. *shrug*

8 posted on 10/08/2023 11:32:47 AM PDT by grobdriver (The CDC can KMA!)
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To: FarCenter
Too had The Daily Star didn't inform Iran, Hammas and Hezbollah about this.
9 posted on 10/08/2023 11:35:37 AM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to he)
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To: Magnum44

“The knives are out for Israel today.”

Yes! Very one-sided article.


10 posted on 10/08/2023 11:36:14 AM PDT by Old Grumpy
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thesun.com
Sarah Hooper
October 7th 2023
Updated: October 8th 2023

Israel’s high-tech spies and $1bn Iron Dome defences failed to stop Hamas massacring civilians in ’embarrassing failure’

HAMAS launched an all-out attack on Israel despite the country’s $1 billion Iron Dome defences in what experts are calling an “embarrassing intelligence failure”. The unprecedented morning attack from the terrorist group left hundreds of Israelis and Palestinians dead in a brutal massacre. Palestine militant group Hamas launched a massacre on Israeli citizens in the early hours of Saturday morning

In response to the thousands of rockets launched into their territory, Israel declared a state of war against Palestine.

International relations professor and Chatham House Associate Fellow Yossi Mekelberg revealed to The Sun that the surprise attack from Hamas marks a “major escalation” in Israeli-Palestinian relations.

He said: “It’s unprecedented, because Hamas managed to enter towns, villages and the rest.

“The fact is Israel had a complete intelligence failure, operational failure, the fact that they’ve managed to enter the country so easily, that’s a big embarrassment and a big challenge from a security point of view.

snip....rest posted on FR


American support for the highly praised billion dollar Iron Dome system is part of a larger package of US military aid to Israel, which according to an agreement between the two countries will total $38 billion in the years 2019 to 2028.

How did the US contribute to the Iron Dome? The United States partnered with Israel’s Iron Dome Department to develop the system. U.S. Defense Secretary visited Tel Aviv in 2020 and saw the Iron Dome when the U.S. purchased two of its own. The IMDO receives joint funding with the United States Missile Defense Agency to carry out joint initiatives.


What Is Israel’s Iron Dome Anti-Rocket System?
Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com › business › 2023/10/08


11 posted on 10/08/2023 11:38:54 AM PDT by Liz (“The only time Biden gets his hands dirty is when he’s taking cash from foreign countries." Trump)
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To: Old Grumpy

> Yes! Very one-sided article. <

It’s also, by my count, the fourth such one posted by the original poster today.
I get that we need to know how other countries are thinking. But still…


12 posted on 10/08/2023 11:38:56 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

“Poverty” wins because it serves the interests of those who champion the poor.

This is true in Gaza, which is best described as a gigantic project reliant upon welfare built on grievance and hatred AND it’s true in the projects found in the United States or Europe.

We pay to maintain the status quo because we are told it is humanitarian, but those who champion the miserable status quo foment the grievance because it serves their political interests.


13 posted on 10/08/2023 11:39:52 AM PDT by volunbeer (We are living 2nd Thessalonians)
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To: FarCenter

Thee antisemites hate it when Jews fight back. And if world opinion is as evil as “The Daily Star,” then world opinion be damned or worse.


14 posted on 10/08/2023 11:39:54 AM PDT by Stepan12 (Enrique Tarrio? “Remember the prisoners as if chained with them – those who are mistreated…” Hebrew)
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To: FarCenter

Who wrote this shit?


15 posted on 10/08/2023 11:40:09 AM PDT by silent majority rising
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aipac.com

U.S. Security Assistance to Israel
American Israeli Public Affairs Committee Briefing Book 2023

The United States has long defined Israel’s survival and security as important to its own national interests. Israel helps the United States meet its growing security challenges through close cooperation and a range of innovative technologies. Through executive commitment and legislative action, America provides Israel with annual security assistance that helps the Middle East’s only democracy defend itself—by itself—against mounting security threats.

History and Terms
The United States has supported Israel politically since its reestablishment in 1948. But it was not until the late 1960s that it began to regularly provide security assistance to the Jewish state. Since then, America has consistently provided Israel with security assistance to help it stay strong and deter its enemies.

U.S. security assistance to Israel promotes our national security and our economy, and helps our ally defend itself against growing threats.

Security Assistance: By means of its annual foreign aid, U.S. security assistance to Israel is the most tangible manifestation of American support for the Jewish state. Assistance primarily takes the form of funding for Israel to purchase the arms needed to defend itself from its adversaries.

QME: A core element of U.S. policy is to maintain Israel’s qualitative military edge (QME)—the ability to counter and defeat any credible conventional military threat while sustaining minimal damages and casualties. In 2008, Congress wrote America’s longstanding commitment to Israel’s QME into law and required the president to continually assess whether it is being maintained.

Memoranda of Understanding: In 1998, the United States and Israel signed their first 10-year “Memorandum of Agreement on Security Cooperation” to increase security assistance to Israel while phasing out economic aid. Under the agreement, the United States committed to providing Israel $21.3 billion in security assistance. In 2016, America committed to provide $38 billion under a new 10-year Memorandum of Understanding (MOU).

Serving American Interests
U.S. provides security assistance to key allies around the world. Current law ensures this aid can only be used for “internal security, for legitimate self-defense.”

Anchor of Stability: In an increasingly uncertain Middle East, Israel is the one stable democratic ally upon which America can consistently depend. Cooperation between the two countries in intelligence, homeland security, missile defense and counterterrorism has helped the United States meet its growing security challenges. U.S. support for Israel helps deter regional conflict by making clear to potential foes that they cannot defeat the Jewish state.

Israeli Innovation: As a result of the strong friendship between Israel and the United States, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) and the U.S. military share technologies and techniques that greatly benefit both nations. Israel has pioneered cutting-edge technologies in cyber defense, unmanned vehicles, sensors and electronic warfare systems, and advanced defenses for military vehicles. In addition, Israeli battlefield medical technologies have saved countless American lives. The innovative use of U.S. military equipment by the IDF, coupled with shared know-how, has helped the U.S. military improve its own equipment and tactics.

Stockpiles: Established in the 1980s, the War Reserves Stock Allies-Israel program consists of up to $3.4 billion of U.S.-owned and -managed weapons and equipment stored in Israel for use by the U.S. military. The IDF may access these reserves during emergencies, if authorized by the U.S. government.

Crucial to Israel’s Security
Mounting Threats: The ongoing instability gripping the region directly threatens the Jewish state. To its north, Israel faces Hezbollah in Lebanon and a growing Iranian presence in Syria; to its south, Israel faces Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) in Gaza while ISIS-affiliated terrorists roam the Sinai Peninsula; to its west, militant terrorist groups are gaining strength in the West Bank. Israel’s greatest threat remains Iran, which is attempting to surround the Jewish state with terrorist proxies while developing the capability to produce nuclear weapons.


Congressional Research Service
US Foreign aid to Israel
60 page detailed report

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/RL/RL33222/44


16 posted on 10/08/2023 11:40:34 AM PDT by Liz (“The only time Biden gets his hands dirty is when he’s taking cash from foreign countries." Trump)
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To: FarCenter

Tell that to Mr.82 Million Banana Boat Ballots. He’s the big shot dummy pimping wars.


17 posted on 10/08/2023 11:41:22 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Prosecutors say Trump may have broken the law admiring gun in South Carolina" ROTFLMAO!)
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To: hanamizu
Be a shame if all the Palestinivermin were shuffled off this mortal coil.

With extreme prejudice.

18 posted on 10/08/2023 11:43:20 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: FarCenter

aided by criminal neglect from the international community towards the Palestinians’ calls for justice

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Bullshit. These young male palestinian killers have a toy gun put in their tiny hand 60 seconds after they are born and “kill jews” and infidels are the first two words they are taught.

They have just proven beyond ALL doubt that, just like the Nazi’s, they will never be entitled to, or deserving of, justice.


19 posted on 10/08/2023 11:43:21 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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To: silent majority rising
"The Daily Star, Leading English Daily among Bangladesh Newspapers"

Time for another out-of-control monsoon season for Bangladesh.

20 posted on 10/08/2023 11:47:06 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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