Posted on 09/27/2023 8:43:25 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
Donald Trump once again mixed up candidates he ran against this week, this time conflating Jeb Bush with George W. Bush. But, had Trump actually run against George W. Bush, MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” crew is pretty sure Trump would have been “gutted” in no time at all.
During a speech in South Carolina on Monday, Trump recounted to his followers that, in 2016, “everyone thought Bush was going to win,” because he “supposedly was a military person,” but then mocked his military leadership.
“He got us into the Middle East,” Trump said. “How did that work out, right? But they all thought that Bush might win — Jeb. Remember Jeb?”
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That was before GWB endorsed, and promised to vote for, Hillary. Morning Joe LOL.
Writer has problems distinguishing between ine different Bushes.
The attorney general in Texas just survived an impeachment in which the RINOs in Texas and Karl Rove were after him. The atty general defeated a Bushie and there is a vendetta against him.
There may have a time when the Bushs were right but that time has come and gone. We are smarter and wiser now.
Yep. The imagery they like to invoke tells a lot. Sick bastards.
Ha! Much better
I agree.
Bush actually debated well in 2000. We all know about the first debate with sighing and pacing Al Gore, but Bush's best answer came in the third townhall-format debate.
On the question of the death penalty, Bush answered:
MEMBER OF AUDIENCE: In one of the last debates held, the subject of capital punishment came up, and in your response to the question, you seemed overly joyed and as a matter of fact proud that Texas led the nation in the execution of prisoners. Sir, did I misread your response and are you really, really proud of the fact that Texas is number one in executions?That answer still resonates with me because it showed someone with the proper EXECUTIVE mindset. Bush narrowed the issue down to the decision that he, as governor, was tasked to make. He didn't pontificate on the ills of capital punishment, he said that as governor, his job was 1) to verify that the person was found guilty and 2) had full access to the courts to appeal.BUSH: No, I’m not proud of that. The death penalty is a very serious business, Leo. It’s an issue that good people obviously disagree on. I take my job seriously. And if you think I was proud of it, I think you misread me, I do. I was sworn to uphold the laws of my state. During the course of the campaign in 1994 I was asked do you support the death penalty. I said I did if administered fairly and justly. Because I believe it saves lives, Leo, I do. If it’s administered swiftly, justly and fairly, it saves lives. One of the things that happens when you’re a governor, at least oftentimes you have to make tough decisions. You can’t let public persuasion sway you, because the job is to enforce the law. And that’s what I did, sir. There have been some tough cases come across my desk. Some of the hardest moments since I’ve been the governor of the State of Texas is to deal with those cases. But my job is to ask two questions, sir. Is the person guilty of the crime? And did the person have full access to the courts of law? And I can tell you looking at you right now, in all cases those answers were affirmative. I’m not proud of any record. I’m proud of the fact that violent crime is down in the State of Texas. I’m proud of the fact that we hold people accountable. But I’m not proud of any record, sir, I’m not.
Bush didn't let the societal debate on crime and punishment lure him into a mindset of nullification like today's leftist do; he took seriously the job he was electeed to do from an executive perspective, not an activist one.
I still believe that President Trump brought that same executive perspective to the job, and also tried to do it within the Constitutional boundaries of the office. Whenever the left got a judge to block Trump, he worked within the system to resolve the ruling -- he didn't ignore it or try to work around it.
That's what makes a person "presidential" and not a "maverick."
-PJ
I think they’ve been up to something since GHWB was forced upon RR.
Looking back, now.
Good news is that we didn't get the chance to find out if Jeb was a bad president too. That was the hope in 2016.
So do you mean every president who has a House and Senate from his own party when he takes office and then loses both the House and the Senate to the opposition party during his term — is a loser?
Hey Joe...how’s that secretary doing?
OL tippy toes??!!!? Wonder how that ass hat is doing now?
Had Bush had Lee Atwater, maybe, otherwise the Bush’s were not going to get their white gloves dirty, but would lose with dignity and honor whatever that means in politics.
And Bush made the mistake of listening to Colin Powell and tried that nation building crap in Afghanistan, twenty years of death and misery for nothing.
We should have killed bin laden, punished the taliban and any other terrorist we encountered and left that rat hole within months, a year at most.
Why are you turning a blind-eye towards the invasion happening along out borders that consist overwhelmingly of military aged young males.
Why are we giving these invaders 2,200 a month giving them driving license's & registering them as voters, and you still say remain silent about all of what is happening. What does it take for you to start realizing that sooner or later it will start impacting you & your family? I mean what does it take for you people to wake up to the realities going on in your country that are not going to be beneficial to you at some point in time? If you were diagnosed with cancer and it was in stage one, would you wait until is got to stage 2, stage 3 or possible stage 4 before you took some action? Knowing that doing nothing is not going to solve anything but make it worse. Because that is the attitude you are taking with putting Ukraine over this nation because Putin did something you disagree with. That's the definition of insanity in just about everybody's book, that I personally know.
Why are you supporting the sending of money, armament & munitions overseas leaving us defenseless, while the homeless population is growing by leaps & bounds to a size never before seen in the nation. Homeless veterans being discarded like trash, committing suicides in shocking & shameless numbers? Crimes are being committed in broad daylight, which are closing businesses, which are throwing more people out of jobs. Job s are being lost, they are not being created. So does it have to get bad enough to negatively affect you before you start caring about your fellow citizen more that some Ukrainian you will never know?
We could have made Putin an ally, instead we are driving him into the arms of China. All of these items I mention are destroying this nation, yet you foolishly demand support for Ukraine. They are no better than Russia. They are ranked as the 3rd most corrupt nation. I think an honest evaluation of our nation might shockingly show us ranking right up there, because we have a criminal organization running this nation.
Do you help all of your neighbors before you help immediately family?
Your video only serves to prove my point, you live in fantasy situations, divorced from reality.
In the Hollywood fantasies the outcome can be scripted to end in a certain fashion. In reality, one has to factor the realities to give a reasonable expectation of what the outcome will be. Even then it often goes off script & reassessments have to be made & alterations to the plan need to be made. When a certain number is reached the whole plan is in serous jeopardy.
But you also have to know what is the real desired goal, and more importantly who is the real target.
From where I sit it looks like the U.S. was the real target, and the desired goal was America. Because I don't see Russia getting weaker, but I do see the U.S. becoming much weaker. Time for you to depart fantasy & return to reality, before reality crushes you like like a sledger hammer. Because the reality in Ukraine is Ukraine is getting hammered. Is it a cakewalk for Russia? No way because there is just enough interference on Ukraine's side to prop it up just enough to keep the U.S. war machine humming but not at a pace the really impacts the meat grinder chopping up Ukraine's young males. But when Poland starts throwing in the towel stating that they have tolerated their "guests" much too long already, that only hurts Ukraine. The rest of Europe is upset they followed the U.S. into this proxy war quagmire because the impacts are far outpacing the benefits that they were expecting. France want to join BRICS. Support overall in the EU is waning, and they too are starting to turn their backs on Ukraine, because they know the truth regarding Ukraine & their involvement in provoking this invasion & subsequent proxy war.
Sorry, but you are a naive little waif who believes too much in fairy tales.
Beyond that though, I doubt you will read it because its too much information to bother reading.
But that is the reality of real life. It's never a quick & easy tale to communicate & digest.
Perhaps we should have this discussion on an appropriate topic instead of hijacking this one.
yes, lose the House, the Senate and the Presidency and you’re a loser. The President is our head of state, our head of government and the head of the party.
What’s your definition of a loser, a President who retains the House and Senate and is re-elected? That doesn’t make any sense.
I suppose you could adjust this for elections prior to the Republican Revolution of 1994, when the Democrats enjoyed an perennial advantage in the House of Representatives.
Great Presidents are not only re-elected, are succeeded by the candidate of their party. Ronald Reagan was a great president. Our last one. Abraham Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt were great presidents. I could mention a few others, but you get the idea.
Nobody disagrees with you about Bin Laden. We tried to kill bin Laden at Tora Bora.
https://www.britannica.com/event/Battle-of-Tora-Bora
The other part, I agree with you. Colin Powell’s idea that “if you break it, you have to fix it,” was wrong. Afghanistan wasn’t fixed when we arrived. It was broke a long time before we arrived. Maybe broke for thousands of years.
Plus, the neocons thought an election or maybe two turns people into (small d) democrats. No. It takes ma generation, maybe two for this to happen. Bush’s planning for Afghanistan and the Obama’s follow-through was a disaster. It took Trump to pull the plug on that disaster.
Bigger picture: People over-learned the lesson of nation-building of Japan and Germany. They don’t appreciate what a miracle Douglas MacArthur accomplished in Japan, for example. Continued dictatorship in South Korea and Taiwan is more normal than quick transformation into a democracy.
I’ll put this a different way: premature withdrawal can be very bad.
My theory is that the RINO machine (Bushs, Karl Rove, etc.) in Texas are pissed with Paxton and were behind the impeachment.
Very dirty politics. I am embarrassed to have once followed them and voted for Bush. Oh well, I am older and wiser.
“Ronald Reagan was a great president. Our last one.”
agreed
hopefully we can also agree President Trump was a very good to excellent president — not great, though. Jury’s still out.
Our three greatest presidents were Washington, Lincoln and Reagan.
Trump was bushwhacked by covid. Years 1 to 3 were fine. Year 4 not so good. Without covid he would have been re-elected #1 because his approval rating would have been better and #2 the other party would not have been able to get their mail-in ballot scheme implemented. Maybe we could have regained our majority in the house.
BIG accomplishments:
Avoided getting sucked into a new war while keeping various bad guys at bay; brought peace to Sunni Arabs and Jews*; normalized relations between Serbia and Kosovo*; got control of the border; opened the door for minorities in GOP, especially Hispanics; got a better deal on the F-35
*why wasn’t he awarded a Nobel Peace Prize
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