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Ukraine to either surrender on Moscow’s terms or cease to exist — top Russian lawmaker
Tass ^ | Tass

Posted on 09/25/2023 3:40:00 AM PDT by hardspunned

MOSCOW, September 25. /TASS/. Ukraine is fated either to capitulate on Moscow’s terms or cease to exist as a state, Vyacheslav Volodin, speaker of the Russian State Duma (lower house of parliament), said.

"When speaking about the conflict in Ukraine, [US President Joe] Biden, [NATO Secretary General Jens] Stoltenberg and other Western officials have started calling it 'a war of attrition.' They have put huge amounts of money into militarizing the Kiev regime. Where has it gotten them? The simple facts are these: the West is experiencing weapons and ammunition shortages, people in Europe and the US have lost trust in politicians, and the Kiev regime’s counteroffensive has failed," Volodin stated.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: emptythreat; kremlin; lol; newsfromrussia; russialosing; sure; tass; vatniks
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The West might not like it but everything Volodin said is true. Western oligarchs and the MIC can still make tremendous profits from a rump Ukraine at the expense of the poor suffering Ukrainian population.
1 posted on 09/25/2023 3:40:00 AM PDT by hardspunned
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Con man Zelensky got huge amounts of money to militarize the Kiev regime with dire results
<><>the West is experiencing weapons and ammunition shortages,
<><>people in Europe and the US have lost trust in politicians,
<><>and the Kiev regime’s counteroffensive has failed.


2 posted on 09/25/2023 3:47:47 AM PDT by Liz ( 2024 Dems will have the same guy with the same team around him, just older.)
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Good thing that you and your fellow appeasers were not in charge of the U.S. war efforts during the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, and World War II, since you are fully willing to accept defeat and subjugation just because its more convenient for you.


3 posted on 09/25/2023 3:59:49 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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Russian official: “Ukraine is fated either to capitulate on Moscow’s terms or cease to exist as a state...”

duh, isn’t that the point of invading a country?


4 posted on 09/25/2023 4:01:27 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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If the U.S. had allowed an invasion of 3-5 million mutants across our southern border in the three years after Pearl Harbor, FDR would have been chained to his wheelchair and tossed into the Potomac River.

And the U.S. would have “accepted defeat” in Europe and the South Pacific, too.

5 posted on 09/25/2023 4:06:49 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (“Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.”)
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Good thing that you and your fellow appeasers were not in charge of the U.S. war efforts during the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, and World War II

The United States was actually attacked during these wars. Nothing good for the United States has come from Ukraine in the last ten years. Nothing. Nada. Zilch.

6 posted on 09/25/2023 4:06:56 AM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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>The United States was actually attacked during these wars. Nothing good for the United States has come from Ukraine in the last ten years. Nothing. Nada. Zilch.

And it’s so confounding when people compare wars that America endured to some far-off conflict that our own State Dept. orchestrated. We’re going to end up the bad guy when the world realizes we helped destroy Ukraine because a few neocons in Biden’s admin absolutely hate Putin.


7 posted on 09/25/2023 4:18:05 AM PDT by struggle
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To: Timber Rattler

You make it sound like it’s our war. It’s not, never was. This is Europe’s problem, not ours.

Subjugation? I’d say you are the one willing to accept that. Millions pouring over the southern border, if unstopped, will eventually lead to our subjugation and the Russians will have nothing to do with it!

Defeat? China is building their military and gaining influence world wide. They are our communist enemy, always have been, and always will be. We have depleted military stockpiles due to this Uke fiasco. If there is a potential defeat, that’s where it will be.

I’d say your priorities are a little hazy. Better check you meds.


8 posted on 09/25/2023 4:18:15 AM PDT by redfreedom (Joseph Stalin: "It does not mater how anyone votes, how votes are counted is what matters.")
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Good thing you didnt quit your night job.


9 posted on 09/25/2023 4:28:20 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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To: Timber Rattler

Go to the Odessa Hotel if you can find it this morning and join the foreigners assisting Ukraine.


10 posted on 09/25/2023 4:30:20 AM PDT by Jumper
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Get rid of Zelensky.


11 posted on 09/25/2023 4:30:54 AM PDT by dforest
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Here is the money quote Snake: "More than 10.5 million people have fled Ukraine. Another 11.2 million residents of Crimea, Sevastopol, the Donetsk and Lugansk people’s republics and the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions decided to join Russia. Ukraine has lost 53.7% of its population since 2014," the State Duma speaker highlighted.
12 posted on 09/25/2023 4:31:39 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (The Forever War is a crime against humanity)
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“ Good thing that you and your fellow appeasers were not in charge of the U.S. war efforts during the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, and World War II, since you are fully willing to accept defeat and subjugation just because its more convenient for you.”
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Snake, you are delusional. Your Neocon/globalist UKRAINE PROJECT has ZERO equivalence to the American Revolution, the Civil War or WW2.


13 posted on 09/25/2023 4:34:33 AM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX)
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We owe Ukraine nothing. The corrupt nation bribed our so-called president and has received $100 billion in return that should have gone to stop the invasion of the US. Biden has committed treason by refusing to enforce the laws of this country. Screw Ukraine.


14 posted on 09/25/2023 4:37:09 AM PDT by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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Defeat?!? We were never attacked other than in your and Hillary’s Russia, Russia, Russia deliriums. The defeat and subjugation involved is the defeat of the US Constitution and the subjugation of the American people by your woke, pervo, green, globalist fellow travelers in Uniparty, DC. I don’t think the Civil War was fought so that “well SOB, the prosecutor got fired” will not perish from the earth.


15 posted on 09/25/2023 4:45:43 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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None of which are even distinctly close to the Ukr war.

We are officially neutral and Ukr is not part of NATO, it by definition is a foreign war unlike all 3 the examples you used.

The revolutionary War and civil war were fought on our soil

WW2 we were attacked directly by Japan then Germany declared war on us.


16 posted on 09/25/2023 4:53:08 AM PDT by Phoenix8
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https://strategic-culture.su/news/2023/09/19/the-ukrainian-morale-in-the-battlefield-a-snapshot/

How much death do you need to see to be convinced this proxy war of Jie Biden’s needs to end?


17 posted on 09/25/2023 4:59:09 AM PDT by FlyingEagle
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One problem...

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Are you willing to cede Alaska back to Russia just to make Putin go away?

18 posted on 09/25/2023 5:06:31 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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In my circles of acquaintances and business associates, it’s no coincidence that there is almost a 100% overlap among those who were Branch Covidians and those nitwits who are Ukrainian cheerleaders.

I suspect it’s probably similar here on FR.

19 posted on 09/25/2023 5:08:31 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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Russian law makers projecting again I see, the breakup of the soviet er ah Russian empire is already beginning

But nothing to see here keep moving, what’s that? Debris from another shot down missile destroyed another headquarters


20 posted on 09/25/2023 5:12:06 AM PDT by blitz128
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