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Update from Ukraine | The Ukrainian Strike on the Ruzzian Black Sea Headquarters | ATACMS approved
Youtube.com ^ | 9-22-2023 | Denys Davydov

Posted on 09/22/2023 6:36:11 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com

Update from Ukraine | The Ukrainian Strike on the Ruzzian Black Sea Headquarters | ATACMS approved

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkdey9bDvgc

The summary of the situation of Russian re-invasion to Ukraine covering the recent developments on the battlefield, as of 20th September 2023 – 22:00 (Kyiv time). [NOTE: two summaries per week, released on Wednesday and Sunday]

https://militaryland.net/news/invasion-day-574-summary/

*** Great interactive maps with viewer controlled Map magnification tool to use for each Front!

https://militaryland.net/maps/


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To: MalPearce
--- "Seriously, guys, direct question - do you ever run your vranyo past the common sense test?"

1) I had to look up the word you used. You could have written in the King's English, given the Union Jack flying on your about page.

2) Based on the word meaning "lying," your sentence "Vranyo on this point is so obviously untrue" translates to me as "lying on this point is so obviously untrue," a redundancy in the King's English.

3) The history as you retell it is unnecessary to my view. Given my "not my circus and not my monkeys" stance, what went on and what is going on are up to the belligerents, first, and Europe second. Within the larger frame of massive international debt and our own idiotically burdensome debt, the expenditure of funds is not to my liking.

4) Often, my participation on these threads is to point out that the OP promotes monetized videos, and most of those have been uploaded from the United States, profitable to the content creators and to YouTube (which takes 45% of the AdSense revenue), as the war between two non-NATO nations is proving a money maker for the few, and a real cottage industry for the YouTubers.

5) Your about page's "Russian USSR-nostalgia, paranoia and revanchism is every bit as antithetical to American interests as Stalinism and Nazism were" is incomplete, as one watches territorial disputes all around the world. Additionally, the phrase "American interests" means different things to different people, and no one on this forum is the decider as to what "American interests' are or who they are defined.

6) As you fly the Union Jack indicating either simple location or actual nationality, one has to question whether you hold and represent American expat views, or British views. Either way, on a forum like this people may agree OR disagree with views expressed.

7) You write, "Never latch onto the first version of a narrative, and disregard all others." I remain skeptical of many narratives, because, as the Guardian video to which you link, is a narrative about narratives, and well produced through multiple camera technique as are many 'narrative' films, not being a documentary but rather an editorial.

8) Here's a narrative and editorial for you, which is worthy of being revisited:

"The ‘PUTIN-Biden-Clinton-Obama’ cartel did used Ukraine as a FRONT to stage their money-laundering by using Russian agents embedded BY PUTIN in the Ukraine government: Ukrainian deep-state!

President Zelensky is still trying to remove Ukraine CORRUPT “deep state created by Putin!” (20 August 2023)

Ukraine CORRUPT “deep state created by Putin!

9) Your tagline's URL leads to a "page missing" response, and as such should be revised. (If you think it carried some 'narrative' you wished to express.) As to the quote from "A Scandal in Bohemia" (1891), that is a fine quote from a fiction. I observe that your scattershot historical editorial is very important to you. I observe something important to me.
US Debt Clock

101 posted on 09/23/2023 5:40:53 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

The look at me thread... sad.


102 posted on 09/23/2023 5:43:46 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: Rocco DiPippo
--- "...the satanic maggot...."

One observes that the "satanic maggot" is 1) Yugoslavian by birth, and 2) mostly in upstate New York, when not in London. Actually she refutes the link to actual Satanism, but a review of her life is apt and informative.

Marina Abramović
That a controversial non-Ukrainian, wealthy New Yorker is named Ukrainian ambassador is its own statement.
103 posted on 09/23/2023 6:02:51 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
Big friend of the Clintons and the very likely pedophile Podesta brothers. Google for the emails from John Podesta regarding one of the "Spirit Cooking" galas of hers he was excited to attend. Then look up Spirit Cooking and what's involved with that. She can say she's not a satanist all she wants but as usual, actions speak louder than words.

You're in for a stomach churning experience, with very heavy satanic overtones.

Much of Abramovic's work involves the gross defilement of the human form. That is inherently satanic.

104 posted on 09/23/2023 7:07:03 AM PDT by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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To: dforest; fieldmarshaldj
Shes baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack. Pushing WWIII with big ole missiles and lots of prayers, don’t forget the prayers for WWIII. LOL

Looks like the censorship might be back, too. Lots of deleted posts on this thread.

That’s a shame. One more week to go until September 30 and the censorship seems to have returned. It had backed off considerably for a while, which was good.

I could be wrong. Maybe the deleted posts had death threats in them like the ones that have been lobbed at fieldmarshaldj recently, or maybe there were f-bombs, but given the history, I suspect it was just good ol’ leftist censorship.

105 posted on 09/23/2023 7:07:41 AM PDT by Allegra (Stop the Zeepers from Censoring FReepers)
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To: JonPreston; fieldmarshaldj; Worldtraveler once upon a time
'kay. Crimea is still Russian. :-)

Nope. Since 1954 Russia has treated Crimea as administratively within the borders of the neighboring state of Ukraine. They then reinforced that position in the mid 70s, reinforced it again under Glasnost and Perestroika reforms, and then reinforced it in the first Minsk agreement (Belovezha Accords), then they reinforced it yet again at the UN where all independent states post-USSR were recognised. And then there are the three subsequent formal agreements between Russia and Ukraine re-confirming the recognition of the 1991 borders. But keep drinking that lovely tears-tasting Vatnik Vranyo.

No quantity of badly behaved tourists / expats lowering the tone of a place alters the reality of which country it's in, so Benidorm remains part of Spain despite hordes of Brits, and Crimea remains part of Ukraine no matter how many settlers Russia buses into it.

Say, what’s the British take on Zelensky asking Marina Abramovic to be ambassador for Ukraine?

What, you mean the alleged “satanist and spirit-cooker” (according to the Vatnik Vranyo Mill who're rather too obsessed by a one-off bit of performance art called 'Spirit Cooking'?

She's been asked to be an ambassador for school rebuilding, just like Mark Hamill has also been asked to be an ambassador for the UNITED24 fundraising platform.. It's a promotional role not a diplomatic post. So of course the vranyo mill has gone all out with a massively irrational nonsequitor based on a fiction and just as naturally, its useful wallies around the world are lapping up like it's profound and meaningful.

I can't speak for the British state, but my opinion is it's a complete irrelevance, a total non-issue, and the vranyo millbloggers really must be getting desperate if they're having to make a bid deal out of this like they did over the one-off sketch Zelenskyy did mashing up Beyonce with Cossack dancing.

I had to look up the word you used.

Actually, "vranyo" is a Soviet concept deployed by Putin, the Kremlin, and the St Petersburg propaganda mill to this day. It doesn't QUITE mean the act of "lying" - it's the practice of you telling a barefaced lie KNOWING that all sensible people will know right off the bat that you're lying, but that's not the point because it's actually about doing it in circumstances where the people who know you're lying still have to act as if you're telling the truth.

David Shipler, a Moscow correspondent for the NYT, explained it this way: ‘You know I’m lying, and I know that you know, and you know that I know that you know, but I go ahead with a straight face, and you nod seriously and take notes.”

By the way, thanks for pointing out the dead link in the tagline - I put that in a very long time ago but I think it's only recently been broken after they updated the page. Currently it's here. I've removed the link from the tagline.

106 posted on 09/23/2023 7:11:49 AM PDT by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe" - Holmes to Watson, A Scandal in Bohemia)
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To: Rocco DiPippo
--- "Big friend of the Clintons and the very likely pedophile Podesta brothers."

It is interesting that the Clintons are now involving their "Haiti" gambit for the Ukraine event. They smell more money, rather like the far smaller YouTubers which these threads promote, as well as a number of Democrat and Democrat-adjacent "Biden endorsing" voices as part of the "daily amen™" threads.

You wrote, "She can say she's not a satanist all she wants but as usual, actions speak louder than words." Of whom were you writing? There can be more than one "she" imagined....

107 posted on 09/23/2023 7:14:06 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
Of whom were you writing?

Abramovic.

I think I know what you're getting at. Lol! Who knows? A lot of these "elites" are into some very, very messed up stuff.

108 posted on 09/23/2023 7:18:28 AM PDT by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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To: SisterK

“Ukraine and US are running parallel
both have a Christian remnant”

You are a quality Freeper. We both agree that evil exists world wide.

Despite Q, there is no equating evil Putin leadership to U.S.

Biden and some U.S. legislators that are corrupt. However, not at the level of murdering post-KGB Putin.

I totally agree with your statement: “killing a bunch of Russians solves NOTHING.”

VERY IMPORTANT SOLUTION TO END CONFLICT:
Tell Putin to stop his evil invasion of Ukraine for his delusion to re-create and control his evil Russian empire delusion. The killing of both Russian and Ukraine military as well a the Ukrainian civilians.


109 posted on 09/23/2023 7:23:42 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine )
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time; Rocco DiPippo

From your link:

“Abramović has had three abortions throughout her life, and has said that having children would have been a ‘disaster for her work.’”

Real classy lady there.


110 posted on 09/23/2023 7:27:01 AM PDT by Allegra (Stop the Zeepers from Censoring FReepers)
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To: SisterK

Russian soldiers don’t want to continue fighting Ukraine | Life on the frontline
The Telegraph
4.74M subscribers
9-23-2023 5:00 a.m. EDT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or0kKJF9CcI

A DPR prisoner of war captured in Sumy Oblast was “genuinely grateful” to the Ukrainian army for saving his life and enabling him to stop serving on the front line, in a war he didn’t want to fight.

“[They treated us] like animals, meat. They threw [to the front] like meat.” Said Shalinsky Seryi Viktorovich, 32, a Donetsk national, who said he was force pre-mobilised on Feb 19 2022.

“[The Russian army] left us behind, we were left fighting with our bare hands. There was no armor,” he added.

Mr Viktorovich said Russian soldiers descended on his city of Enakievo in Donetsk and forcibly recruited men into their military camps five days before Putin invaded Ukraine.

* Read the full article:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/09/23/russian-soldiers-dont-want-to-continue-fighting-ukraine/


111 posted on 09/23/2023 7:33:03 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine )
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To: MalPearce
Fascinating, Yet again I had to use a search engine to understand your parlance, "Vatnik." You apparently are far more adept at Russian lingo than many.

Thanks for mentioning the entity -- United24 (Ukrainian: Об'єднані24) is a Ukrainian government-run platform launched on 5 May 2022 to raise money for the Russo-Ukrainian War.

Source: https://u24.gov.ua/about

As its site "observes," TOTAL COLLECTED: $ 471 628 496, if you accept their statement.

As the site observes, "UNITED24 is not an NGO, but it can collaborate with international NGOs. The official partner of UNITED24 in the United States is Ukraine House DC Foundation, a 501(c)3 registered nonprofit organization (EIN 872080907). Donations to Medical Aid and Rebuild Ukraine are tax-deductible under IRS regulations to the full extent."

Money. It's the theme overall. Excepting when one looks to the US Debt Clock, and learn that it is really about more and more debt. That's the real theme overall.

As to Abramović, 'It's a promotional role not a diplomatic post." Perhaps, but the messaging -- that narrative -- uses the word for public consumption and the public might not make your distinction.

One reads: "Zelensky asks Marina Abramovic to be ambassador for Ukraine," Telegraph UK, 22 September 2023.

And from that article: "Ms Abramović is just one of several celebrities to be recruited to help Kyiv’s public relations battle to ensure continued support for its struggle. Mark Hamill, the actor who played Luke Skywalker in the original Star Wars films, has raised funds to buy reconnaissance drones for front-line Ukrainian troops."

Zelensky asks Marina Abramovic to be ambassador for Ukraine

President Zelenskyy has requested for Marina Abramović to be ambassador for Ukraine.

So it is about messaging, parlance and money. So many conflicts can be described in that way. And it is, as the Telegraph states, "Kyiv’s public relations battle."

Narrative. Against a differing narrative.

112 posted on 09/23/2023 7:38:25 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Rocco DiPippo
Justina's probably jealous that he doesn't get to prance around in fake military garb like the gay-dancing grifter does.

They won’t let Fidelito join their WEF Young Global Leaders costume fetish reunions until he corrects his glaring fashion faux pas.


113 posted on 09/23/2023 7:43:02 AM PDT by Allegra (Stop the Zeepers from Censoring FReepers)
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To: Rocco DiPippo
--- "Of whom were you writing? Abramovic. I think I know what you're getting at. Lol! Who knows? A lot of these "elites" are into some very, very messed up stuff.

Well, there are candidates to assist in identifying "she." Here's one:

Hillary Clinton's Methodist Faith

Hillary Clinton wants to be a lay preacher. Here's what her spiritual adviser says.

5 faith facts about Hillary Clinton: Social Gospel Methodist to the core

As one reads: "She was, is and likely always will be a social-justice-focused Methodist." And a Democrat.

Might there be other social justice-focused Methodists out there?

114 posted on 09/23/2023 7:45:46 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Rocco DiPippo
"THIS is the satanic maggot that Zelenskyyyy™ has asked to be an ambassador for Youcrayne. First that hissing, tranny freak as a rep of the Youcraynian military, now this.

Is there a pattern developing here?

What does this pick say about the gay-dancing, piano dick-playing, running around naked in grocery stores, degenerate actor and serial grifter Zelenskyyyyy™?

To RevMom: do you agree with his pick? Do you disagree with it? How can you propagandize for and worship someone who advocates for such demonic filth? Awaiting your take on this latest, sordid development."

You're right. The wankers who support this crap on forums like FR are either total idiots or total dastards...

115 posted on 09/23/2023 7:49:06 AM PDT by ganeemead ( )
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To: MalPearce

“Nope. Since 1954 Russia has treated Crimea as administratively within the borders of the neighboring state of Ukraine. They then reinforced that position in the mid 70s, reinforced it again under Glasnost and Perestroika reforms, and then reinforced it in the first Minsk agreement (Belovezha Accords), then they reinforced it yet again at the UN where all independent states post-USSR were recognised. And then there are the three subsequent formal agreements between Russia and Ukraine re-confirming the recognition of the 1991 borders. But keep drinking that lovely tears-tasting Vatnik Vranyo.

No quantity of badly behaved tourists / expats lowering the tone of a place alters the reality of which country it’s in, so Benidorm remains part of Spain despite hordes of Brits, and Crimea remains part of Ukraine no matter how many settlers Russia buses into it.”

GREAT COMMENT!

Basically, if you look at the quality of the majority of anti-Ukraine comments few share subsequent quality info worthy of response!


116 posted on 09/23/2023 8:06:19 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine )
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Pizzagate is a whole lot more serious than just some KKKomodian playing a piano with his johnson and Zelenski is plainly tied up in that. You still supporting that lunatic??


117 posted on 09/23/2023 8:13:07 AM PDT by ganeemead ( )
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

That’s a great video.


118 posted on 09/23/2023 8:22:09 AM PDT by MarMema (Eat your bananas, enjoy the decline)
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To: Rocco DiPippo

“Same for her fellow spam-posting Youkazoid does:

‘I would rather the world end in nuclear war than yield to Little Pukin. 15 posted on 10/12/2022, 6:02:03 AM by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)’”
_____________________________________________________________________

But wait! There’s more! Fresh off of the presses from the Ghoulish Blood Dancing category:

“Just image how many RuZZian Boys American taxpayer money has killed!

Living the Dream.

19 posted on 9/23/2023, 10:15:08 AM by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)”

https://freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/4184439/posts?page=19#19

These people must be soulless. Dead inside. They walk among us.


119 posted on 09/23/2023 8:29:48 AM PDT by Allegra (Stop the Zeepers from Censoring FReepers)
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To: Allegra

A nice pair. I wouldn’t be surprised if they shared a hotel room for awhile.


120 posted on 09/23/2023 8:39:26 AM PDT by MarMema (Eat your bananas, enjoy the decline)
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