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US Navy gives up the ghost on its failed ‘urban street fighter’
Asia Times ^

Posted on 09/13/2023 10:22:23 AM PDT by FarCenter

How do you build a ship without a mission? The littoral combat ship (LCS) is how.

It could not carry out its original mission because the ship is not survivable in combat. The billions wasted on the US Navy’s so-called “urban street fighter” ship could have been used to build additional missile defense AEGIS destroyers or give the Navy more firepower or finance a new generation of robotic surface and subsurface vessels.

Instead, the Navy chose to build ships it did not need and could not use. Even when they were deployed, they often broke down, deeply embarrassing the Navy and harming US prestige. Worse yet, the Navy worked hard to salvage the ships – to no avail – by improving their firepower without making them more reliable.

Neither version of the littoral combat ship (one of them is a steel-hulled ship with an aluminum superstructure; the other is an all-aluminum trimaran design) can perform the original mission, which was “envisioned to be a networked, agile, stealthy surface combatant capable of defeating anti-access and asymmetric threats in the littorals.”

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On September 8, the US Navy decommissioned the USS Milwaukee, LCS-5. The Milwaukee entered service in 2015 meaning that it was in use for only eight years. It was used primarily for intercepting drug traffickers.

The 2023 fiscal year budget calls for decommissioning nine Freedom-class LCS ships. Fourteen of the 16 completed Independence-class ships, along with the remaining Freedom class, remain in service. For how long is anyone’s guess.

Why the Navy keeps pouring money and manpower into these ships remains an open question.

(Excerpt) Read more at asiatimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: lcs; littoral; navy
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1 posted on 09/13/2023 10:22:23 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter

At least they found out.


2 posted on 09/13/2023 10:23:31 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (e allowed )
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To: FarCenter

Thank you Obama


3 posted on 09/13/2023 10:26:01 AM PDT by Fai Mao (Starve the beast and steal its food!)
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To: FarCenter

I have a mental vision of haze gray and underway up a Detroit boulevard here. Could be a little tough to maneuver but the liberty would be awesome.


4 posted on 09/13/2023 10:28:45 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: FarCenter

I served a bit on the USS Coral Sea (CV-43) and had a chance while teaching up at one of the shipyards to tour one of these littoral ships in Wisconsin. I recall the multi-feet thick doors in rudder area on the Coral Sea versus the paper thin construction of the littoral ship. Just not comparable. These littoral ships were not built to even withstand a 50 caliber bullet.


5 posted on 09/13/2023 10:29:47 AM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected. No Baggage, No Drama.)
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To: FarCenter
"Requirements Compatibility Analysis" is an engineering assessment to determine whether the design requirements in the A, B, and C level specifications are compatible or whether they conflict with each other.

Too often, political concerns override physics and the state of the art.

6 posted on 09/13/2023 10:30:43 AM PDT by G Larry (It is RACIST to impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants by importing Cheap ILLEGAL Labor!)
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To: FarCenter

Most likely, some well-connected shlubs made big money on a ship the Navy never wanted or needed. Zumwalt, in the 70’s was big on the “high/low mix” and look where it left us.


7 posted on 09/13/2023 10:31:23 AM PDT by Srednik (Polyglot. Overeducated. Redeemed by Christ. Anticommunist from the womb.)
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To: FarCenter

Maybe the people making stupid Navy decisions got their jobs based on sexual kink, color, or ‘daddy’ pull... rather than on being capable. Like most of DC...


8 posted on 09/13/2023 10:32:03 AM PDT by GOPJ (Our side must NOT work with democrats. Or we'll Bud Light them...)
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To: FarCenter

Zumwalt Destroyers — swell idea but cost too much, could not perform it’s primary mission, was a failed program.

LCS— not needed, hard to maintain, pointless ship, failed program.

Meanwhile, over on the Air Force side, the USAF would dearly love to cancel the A-10 because it is a proven workhorse, marvelous in its critical role, and loved by the Army. The air force hasn’t managed to kill it yet but they sure want to.

We think we are militarily strong, but I have my doubts.


9 posted on 09/13/2023 10:32:28 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (They say "Our Democracy" but they mean Cosa Nostra.)
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To: FarCenter

Some rich cats are going to picking these ships up for song and make them into Yachts.


10 posted on 09/13/2023 10:36:20 AM PDT by Rappini ("No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in it's preservation" MacArthr)
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To: FarCenter
Who were the admirals and politicians pushing to build these aluminum can "littoral ships"??

In the Foreword to a 65-page 2014 report, "The Littoral Combat Ship: How Got Here, and Why" by Robert O. Work, Robert C. (Barney) Rubel (Dean, Center for Naval Warfare Studies) stated: "[E]very Chief of Naval Operations since Admiral Vern Clark has supported the program."

11 posted on 09/13/2023 10:39:57 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: Rappini
I surprised they didn't gift them to Ukraine, so they can charge the money to a foreign aid account and recoup the money for the next doomed project.
Zhou Bhi Deng would love his 10%.
12 posted on 09/13/2023 10:41:21 AM PDT by Waverunner
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To: Reno89519

.......went on the Coral Sea many times in Sasebo delivering registered mail.

That ship was awesome. On the go constantly.


13 posted on 09/13/2023 10:42:15 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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To: FarCenter

All of the LCS’s should have a new class designation.

The OBAMA/BIDEN class. They were responsible, they own this disaster, and the mention of every one of these ships should bring up the Administration and decisions that made them.


14 posted on 09/13/2023 10:43:16 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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To: FarCenter
They should have gone with the Army's EM-50 Urban Assault Vehicle


15 posted on 09/13/2023 10:43:30 AM PDT by COBOL2Java ("Life without liberty is like a body without spirit." - Kahlil Gibran)
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To: COBOL2Java

“It’s like going into Wisconsin.”


16 posted on 09/13/2023 10:44:03 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: FarCenter

Why the Navy keeps pouring money and manpower into these ships remains an open question.


To buoy the ship count, else Congress would have a fit.


17 posted on 09/13/2023 10:44:30 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I think we waste 51% of our national defense budget and use 45% productively and 4% is stolen.


18 posted on 09/13/2023 10:45:17 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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To: FarCenter
t was used primarily for intercepting drug traffickers.

Why couldn't they give it to the Coast Guard and use it for the same purpose?

19 posted on 09/13/2023 10:46:43 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: FarCenter
While the Pentagon is never held accountable or the Senate Armed Services Committee. The taxpayer be damned.
20 posted on 09/13/2023 10:47:30 AM PDT by kenmcg (ti hi o)
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