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Elon Musk Loathes Trump, New Book Reveals: ‘Champion of Bullshit’
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Posted on 09/12/2023 7:59:41 PM PDT by GulliverSwift

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To: yldstrk
Musk is a genius

As a genius I would expect more from him than just building useless electric cars that do nothing about saving this planet. For the resources that must be taken from the ground, most likely does more damage to the earth & man than helps the earth & man. So, his genius is questionable. He got a lot of his money from the U,S, Treasury with all of the subsidy incentives offered for worthless electric vehicles that are unreliable and have real problems with their unstable batteries packs.

He is more untouchable in a free society, but he is owned lock, stock & barrel by the CCP. That is why he never speaks bad of the CCP. for he knows that if he does, he could very easily go missing. He's not so smart as you think he is, But he is playing both sides of the coin effectively, but that presents dangers in itself. That's the only reason he became an American citizen.

the facts as he sees them, but those facts can be lies, and I doubt any really knows what lies he does buy as facts, because he keeps much of himself to himself for protection. Again, he never speaks ill of brutal practices the CCP engage in for control of the Chinese people.

Again a weak presentation, for which very little can you offer proof to confirm they are true & accurate.

61 posted on 09/12/2023 9:50:25 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: USA-FRANCE
Musk called himself “kind of pro-China” and said Beijing was willing to work on global artificial intelligence (AI) regulations as part of “team humanity”.

Musk is naive about China. Of course much of his financial interests lie there, so of course he's going to get annoyed at Trump for making trouble with Chinese trade with the US.

62 posted on 09/12/2023 9:51:18 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: GulliverSwift

63 posted on 09/12/2023 9:53:39 PM PDT by cabojoe ( 🇺🇸 Stop Ukie censorship. Release kiryandil and Gonzalo Lira)
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To: USA-FRANCE

Well...Musk wants all those Chinese to drive Teslas and cheaper to make them there. Pretty simple.

Trump likely isn’t planning any development in China so DJT is coming from a completely different perspective - he’s wants the USA to be independent of China for our own sovereignty. He doesn’t like HIS country being ripped off by China.


64 posted on 09/12/2023 9:53:40 PM PDT by Aria
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To: Angelino97

Every entrepreneur takes advantage of the bankruptcy laws, that is why they exist. . But his tax deal etc. were with states, not the Federal Government. I have heard many people complain about how they are still banned from twitter for reasons that are not in violation of the rules, and are accepted truths. So no, he hasn’t improved free speech at all.


65 posted on 09/12/2023 9:56:05 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Secret Agent Man
Trump can be wrong sometimes. Musk can be wrong sometimes.

True, however, if you think President Trump did something criminal around Jan. 6th, you're either really stupid (Musk isn't Stupid) or your ethics, morality and actions are already compromised.
66 posted on 09/12/2023 9:56:24 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Trump has all the right enemies, DeSantis has all the wrong friends.)
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To: Robert DeLong
Yes, he has improved free speech on Twitter.

I said improved, not made perfect.

Some people are still banned? Sure. But some other people have been let back on. (Including Trump.) An improvement.

67 posted on 09/12/2023 9:58:31 PM PDT by Angelino97
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To: Robert DeLong

Wow, ever heard of PayPal? Ever heard of SpaceX? Ever heard of Starlink? And those are just the companies Elon Musk started that I know about; he has a lot more that I don’t know the names of.

Talk about weak presentation.


68 posted on 09/12/2023 9:58:51 PM PDT by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: GulliverSwift

It’s always been very clear, Elon (pronounced the same as Ellen) Musk is remarkably unimpressive.


69 posted on 09/12/2023 10:01:12 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: GulliverSwift
President TRUMP has pretty good record for a bull-shitter!

Trump the ONLY president who did not start stupid foreign wars or continued asinine foreign wars with borrowed money

Trump the only president who actually built a substantial wall on southern border in spite of resistance from deep state.

Trump gave us record low unemployment.

Trump gave us record low gas prices (inflation adjusted).

Trump gave us record low inflation.

Trump nominated 3 good persons to SCOTUS.

Trump gave us biggest tax cut in history.

Trump stopped N Korea from launching rockets with just personal relationship with Kim. DeSantis or any others have no such personality.

Putin did not invade anybody when Trump was president.

Trump built strongest US military in history.

70 posted on 09/12/2023 10:02:08 PM PDT by entropy12 (Career politicians like Desantis build wealth. Trump sacrificed his wealth to serve people. GO TRUMP)
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To: Angelino97

No, no. We need purity tests! Any who don’t pass shall be burned at the stake! /s


71 posted on 09/12/2023 10:09:20 PM PDT by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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To: Robert DeLong
He got a lot of his money from the U,S, Treasury with all of the subsidy incentives offered for worthless electric vehicles...

Not to mention the billions Telsa raked in selling carbon credits before Tesla made the first penny selling cars.

72 posted on 09/12/2023 10:22:06 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Faux News: "We distort, you deride")
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To: entropy12
Trump the ONLY president who did not start stupid foreign wars or continued asinine foreign wars with borrowed money

Well, the only one since Reagan. I don't think Reagan started any wars. Although both Reagan and Trump did use military power at times.

Trump built strongest US military in history.

Did he?

My impression was that it continued to go woke under his watch. The military defied and resisted Trump throughout his administration. Such as when he wanted to use it to stop the BLM rioting in DC.

73 posted on 09/12/2023 10:26:00 PM PDT by Angelino97
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To: SoConPubbie

I wasn’t talking about anything specific.

In this specific case Musk is wrong. For some this will be a 100% deal breaker for them on Musk on anything.


74 posted on 09/12/2023 10:26:21 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: GulliverSwift

Musk congratulated the CCP on their birthday.

Bannon believes Musk is owned lock, stock and barrel by the CCP.

I agree.


75 posted on 09/12/2023 10:38:51 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Disband and Defund the putrid FBI. America does not need an out of control Gestapo)
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To: Angelino97

Perfect reply. Thank you. +1


76 posted on 09/12/2023 10:49:25 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Jesus is LORD and Savior! And Donald Trump is President of the United States of America.)
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To: Coronal

>> When do the bad points outweigh the good, for both of them?

Evaluate their results, not their words. (True of anyone, actually.)


77 posted on 09/12/2023 10:50:37 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Jesus is LORD and Savior! And Donald Trump is President of the United States of America.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

The CCP doesn’t allow any company building hi-tech gadgets to do business in China without turning over the plans first and then also allowing the party to own large parts of the domestic operation.

Musk is on the hook for millions of dollars Chicoms. He sees China as the future for Tesla. He is their stooge to pull the wool over Republicans’ eyes with a few useless Twitter posts.

He only allowed Trump back on because he thought it would get him more money. But Trump won’t allow Musk to make money off him the way all these other grifters do. Good for Trump.


78 posted on 09/12/2023 10:56:19 PM PDT by GulliverSwift
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To: DiogenesLamp

>> Musk is naive about China. Of course much of his financial interests lie there

That’s it, in a nutshell. One may safely evaluate what Musk says and does in light of his interests, which are weighty. By that I mean he holds himself responsible for many others besides himself.

Still, he’s exercising poor judgment. He’ll learn, eventually, that getting in bed with the CCP was short-sighted.


79 posted on 09/12/2023 10:56:37 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Jesus is LORD and Savior! And Donald Trump is President of the United States of America.)
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To: EEGator

It’s not just “here”. It is everywhere on the internet. Mob mentality.


80 posted on 09/12/2023 11:22:57 PM PDT by webheart
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