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Russian general says Eastern Europe is next, reminding us why we need to back Ukraine
The New York Post ^ | September 11, 2023 | Dalibor Rohac

Posted on 09/12/2023 4:01:37 PM PDT by Timber Rattler

If you think, like Elon Musk, that instead of fighting, Ukraine and Russia “should agree to a truce,” the recent interview with General Andrey Mordvichev, one of Russia’s top commanders in Ukraine, should give you pause.

Asked about the war’s expected duration, he said the quiet part out loud: There is still “plenty of time.”

According to him, “If we are talking about Eastern Europe, which we will have to, of course then it will be longer.”

In other words, the Kremlin is in the conflict for the long haul.

Not only it is committed, as Russian President Vladimir Putin himself stated on numerous occasions, to the destruction of Ukraine’s statehood, but its ambitions extend beyond Ukraine, encompassing Moldova and Georgia as well as our NATO allies in the Baltic states and Poland.

None of this is news to Eastern Europeans.

As the late former president of Poland Lech Kaczynski noted in 2008, after Russia attacked Georgia, “Today Georgia, tomorrow Ukraine, the Baltic States the day after tomorrow, and then perhaps the time will come for my country, Poland.”

America’s self-styled realists who believe a compromise can be reached with Putin — perhaps peace in exchange for some territory and promise of Ukraine’s neutrality — have a hopelessly unrealistic, naïve understanding of the Kremlin’s thinking.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: 10percent4bigguy; defense; empire; europe; globohomoagenda; invasion; nato; natostillneeded; neoconsvotedbiden; notourbusiness; notourfight; notourwar; ongoingthreat; pimpthatwar; russianmenace; slobberukraini; uketards; ukrainecorruption; zelenskyworshippers
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To: Timber Rattler

Headless Garter Snake is always posting crappola.


21 posted on 09/12/2023 4:35:57 PM PDT by nesnah (Infringe - act so as to limit or undermine [something]; encroach on)
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To: FarCenter

But a truce would be useful. It would give Europe time to rearm.
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I don’t think you follow the EU financial condition. Broke. The US debt to GDP is the worst- 130 percent….the EU as a whole 88 percent ( look at the disastrous member states)…..Russia is 17 percent, and dropping.

“The government debt to GDP ratio in the European Union as a whole fell to 84 percent at the end of 2022 from a downwardly revised 88 percent in 2021. The highest ratios of government debt to GDP were recorded in Greece (171.3%), Italy (144.4%), Portugal (113.9%), Spain (113.2%), France (111.6%) and Belgium (105.1%), and the lowest in Estonia (18.4%), Bulgaria (22.9%) and Luxembourg (24.6%). Four Member States registered an increase in their debt to GDP ratio and twenty-three Member States a decrease. The increases in the ratio were recorded in Czechia (+2.1 pp), Estonia (+0.8 pp), Finland (+0.4 pp) and Luxembourg (+0.1 pp), while the largest decreases were observed in Greece (-23.3 pp), Cyprus (-14.7 pp), Portugal (-11.5 pp), Ireland (-10.7 pp), Croatia (-10.0 pp), Denmark (-6.6 pp), Italy (-5.5 pp), Lithuania (-5.3 pp), and Spain (-5.0 pp). source: EUROSTAT”


22 posted on 09/12/2023 4:35:58 PM PDT by delta7
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To: canuck_conservative
because Russia continues to be a threatening menace to every European country

France, Germany and Poland should all get together and take the lead in defending Europe. USA should be more focused on the seas and make sure that the world is able to trade with each other.

23 posted on 09/12/2023 4:36:21 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: canuck_conservative

Unlike America, Russia isn’t an interventionist nation. And cursory review of their history shows that. Canada, as per usual, is a non-factor on the world stage, but rates an A+ in terms of being America’s puppy dog.


24 posted on 09/12/2023 4:37:14 PM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: MinorityRepublican

If Putin was smart, he should have left Ukraine alone. And went after the Baltics.
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The Baltic states weren’t bombing ethnic Russians since 2014- the Ukies were.


25 posted on 09/12/2023 4:37:46 PM PDT by delta7
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To: nesnah

maybe your Russian Generals should stop revealing your war plans

then you wouldn’t be so pissed off


26 posted on 09/12/2023 4:37:55 PM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: Timber Rattler
Oooh. Like a row of dominoes, right?

Reminds me of something.

27 posted on 09/12/2023 4:38:20 PM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: Timber Rattler
The article is delightful, as is the "globalist:" who wrote it. One reads:
Dr. Rohac is the author of “.In Defense of Globalism” (Rowman and Littlefield, 2019). His previous book, “Towards an Imperfect Union: A Conservative Case for the EU” (Rowman and Littlefield, 2016), was included on Foreign Affairs magazine's list of best books of 2016. Dr. Rohac has testified before the House Foreign Affairs Committee and has briefed the US Helsinki Commission. His commentary has been published widely in the popular media, including in the Financial Times, Foreign Affairs, Los Angeles Times, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and The Washington Post. His scholarly articles have been featured in policy journals, including Constitutional Political Economy, Journal of Institutional Economics, Kyklos, and Public Choice.

He has a PhD in political economy from King's College London; an MPhil in economics from St Antony's College, University of Oxford; an MA in economics from George Mason University; and a BA in economics from Charles University in Prague.

Source: https://www.aei.org/profile/dalibor-rohac/

As one observes in the article, the statement "Today Georgia, tomorrow Ukraine, the Baltic States the day after tomorrow, and then perhaps the time will come for my country, Poland," is the late former president of Poland Lech Kaczynski, written in 2008. The Maidan dates from 2014 and Russia annexed Crimea in 2014. So the testimony predates the events by six or seven years.

The “should agree to a truce" part is downplayed. A win by Ukraine, a win by Russia, a frozen conflict or an armistice aside. the author is a globalist.

The argument is globalist. Globalism. Yeah, globalism.

28 posted on 09/12/2023 4:38:48 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Timber Rattler

Ah yes, the forever war crowd.


29 posted on 09/12/2023 4:39:31 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: JonPreston
Russia isn’t an interventionist nation




30 posted on 09/12/2023 4:40:45 PM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: Timber Rattler

Who cares? He can have $hitful Europe, for all I care. America First!!


31 posted on 09/12/2023 4:43:46 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: delta7
---- "...the EU financial condition. Broke. The US debt to GDP is the worst- 130 percent….the EU as a whole 88 percent ( look at the disastrous member states)…..Russia is 17 percent, and dropping."

$ 32,922, 698,503,316 and rapidly rising.

* Please note, the above number is already incorrect, so fast does the clock tick, while the "rah-rah" continues.

US Debt Clock

Yup. One big ole credit card, interest due every month. The kids and grandkids will be paying for day tomorrow and in tomorrow's tomorrow. Slava Debt!

32 posted on 09/12/2023 4:44:26 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: 11th_VA
America’s self-styled realists who believe a compromise can be reached with Putin — perhaps peace in exchange for some territory and promise of Ukraine’s neutrality — have a hopelessly unrealistic, naïve understanding of the Kremlin’s thinking.

So lets destabilize Russia so Putin get removed from power and some nut ball general takes charge. Brilliant.

33 posted on 09/12/2023 4:44:43 PM PDT by usurper (AI was born with a birth defect.)
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To: Timber Rattler

I back America..F’ Ukraine, Russia and Europe.


34 posted on 09/12/2023 4:44:49 PM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: Timber Rattler
The international symbol
      for you are about
        to read a really
       stupid comment

35 posted on 09/12/2023 4:45:38 PM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: Timber Rattler

Many people on this board are pro Russian pro Putin the criminal

Incredible

I wonder if they would feel the same if it were trump doing the same. But we will never know as he will not sniff the presidency again. I hope he never comes close


36 posted on 09/12/2023 4:46:18 PM PDT by willWeEverBuildTheWall (DeSantis is the clear choice )
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To: Salman
Oooh. Like a row of dominoes, right?

The grandfathers of this war crowd today sold the boys of the 1960s the same Domino Theory nonsense. After the communists prevailed in 1975, Vietnam never expanded like they claimed would happen, and these folks never bring it up. They just roll out the same mess at the next opportunity, hoping people like us forget.

37 posted on 09/12/2023 4:47:03 PM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: delta7

>>I don’t think you follow the EU financial condition. Broke.

There is nothing like a rearmament binge to pep up the economy.

And it might not cost so much, since the current state of the war has demonstrated that expensive armaments are not what is needed. Instead, a whole new generation of weapons needs to be developed such as swarms of autonomous drones of various types.


38 posted on 09/12/2023 4:49:36 PM PDT by FarCenter (https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/aircraft-glitch-delays-canada-pm-trudeaus-departure-india-202)
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To: JonPreston

except in this case, Russia has a long & documented history of attacking & invading neighboring countries

so let’s believe exactly what this Russian General is telling us

better safe than sorry


39 posted on 09/12/2023 4:50:13 PM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: canuck_conservative

Canada beat us in basketball for the bronze at the world championships

Congratulations


40 posted on 09/12/2023 4:52:21 PM PDT by willWeEverBuildTheWall (DeSantis is the clear choice )
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