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Trump faces another 14th Amendment candidacy challenge, this time in Minnesota
CNN ^ | 9/12/23 | Marshall Cohen

Posted on 09/12/2023 9:51:22 AM PDT by DallasBiff

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To: DallasBiff

They are not afraid.
Unlike the GOP, they have multiple plans with backup plans behind it.
This is something EVERY Silicon Valley engineer learns from the day they first start working there.

They have 10 billionaires all running a portion of the DNC.
The only thing in our favor is President Diaper and his giggling VP.

Trump and/or the GOP could do the same thing but they are stuck in the 50’s way of thinking.

Here’s examples of a positive change:
1) Assign Desantis the task of unifying the GOP governors with identical systems and methodology.

2) Tell Trump to stop attacking nonsense targets, start attacking CA and begin working on a cabinet plan.

3) Form a taskforce NOT being lead by Ron or Trump to create a detailed plan to get rid of the GOP OLD Guard in the Senate.

4) Form an attack group NOT being lead by any of the other groups doing tactical analysis and totally detached from Congress, the President or the Senate. Set them up OUTSIDE of DC and keep them secret.

Notice you now have four unique groups with a real assignment and they don’t step on each others toes.

Trust me, this is now the new Democrat Party has been running since 2012


22 posted on 09/12/2023 10:37:14 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: DallasBiff

More lawfare nonsense from the Dims.


23 posted on 09/12/2023 10:39:49 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: thefactor
Biden won in 2020 by and large because voters were turned off by Trump’s personality."

No, Biden cheated with the National Preemptive Emergency Cellular Network directing ballot traffic to the swing states. It is protected from having to provide court evidence due to an agreement with the DoJ.

24 posted on 09/12/2023 10:45:44 AM PDT by RideForever (Damn, another dangling par .....)
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To: DallasBiff

Also, This “Free Speech for People” non profit is primarily an anti Trump organization.

Their case should be quickly dismissed and every penny they receive from government should be eliminated ASAP.


25 posted on 09/12/2023 10:53:12 AM PDT by unclebankster ( Globalism is the last refuge scoundrel)
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To: DallasBiff
He threatens their gravy train dominance. The criminal enterprise might just face severe consequences if they allow Trump another term. That's why.

Problem is they can't use the 14th amendment against Trump because he has never been charged with any acts against the United States, let alone been convicted of those charges.

None of the charges he currently faces would disqualify him either. The aim of all of these charges against him is really just to weaken him financially. That is the way lawfare works.

26 posted on 09/12/2023 10:57:03 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: alloysteel

“where is the alleged sedition or insurrection?”

I guess Trump rebelled against himself?


27 posted on 09/12/2023 10:58:05 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: no-to-illegals

“There are more red state legislatures than there are blue state legislatures.”

Yeah, but there are more testicles in one blue state legislature than in all the red state legislatures combined.


28 posted on 09/12/2023 10:59:40 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: DallasBiff

Another reason to vote for President Trump.


29 posted on 09/12/2023 11:01:26 AM PDT by Parley Baer (GO )
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To: DallasBiff

SECTION 3 of the 14th Amendment DOES NOT APPLY TO THE PRESIDENT.

The President is NOT one of the positions explicitly mentioned in the text (Senators, Representatives, Electors). Was this some sort of oversight on the part of the authors of the 14th ??? You would think that mentioning the President would be front and center in this section if it was applicable. And why be concerned about “ELECTORS OF THE PRESIDENT” ???? If an insurrectionist running for President could be disqualified, his Electors would be fairly irrelevant at that point but yet they are one of only three positions specifically mentioned.

What about the next part that addresses “any office under the United States” ? Well that won’t work either since the President is not considered an office UNDER the United States, it is the Chief Executive OF the United States. In 1878 David McKnight authored his study of the Electoral System of the United States and in that work he came to the conclusion that the President is “obviously not” an office under the United States. Being that he wrote this just 12 years after the 14th Amendment was passed, and his view has not been challenged for over 100 years, it is pretty reasonable to assume his view represents the basic civic thinking of the time much more so than partisan thinking interprets Section 3 today.


30 posted on 09/12/2023 11:02:51 AM PDT by XRdsRev (Justice for Bernell Trammell, Trump supporter, murdered in 2020)
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To: DallasBiff

bttt


31 posted on 09/12/2023 11:08:50 AM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Never be slave in a new Socialist Americ a)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Yes, I believe it to be true that many Democrats who would have stayed home specifically went out and voted for Biden in order to express their hatred of Trump. Why do we think that would change four years later?

Also, many people didn't even have to get off their couch to vote due to the myriad of election laws that allowed for voting by mail.

I am not saying the election was fraudulent! It wasn't, it was just easier to vote. If someone argues that the election was fraudulent, then the conversation has to stop there because we will never agree on that.

32 posted on 09/12/2023 11:11:22 AM PDT by thefactor
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To: isthisnickcool

Correct.


33 posted on 09/12/2023 11:27:56 AM PDT by sauropod (I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.)
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To: frank ballenger

the process is the punishment


34 posted on 09/12/2023 11:29:14 AM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: DallasBiff
Unless the private citizens have the right to file a writ of quo warranto, they don’t have standing.

Also, Trump has never been convicted of engaging “ in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.”

35 posted on 09/12/2023 11:32:04 AM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024)
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To: DallasBiff

Let these clowns all take the Ls......


36 posted on 09/12/2023 11:40:54 AM PDT by MrRelevant
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To: isthisnickcool
We are losing our law enforcement and judicial systems to evil evil people.

Yes, and the military is largely already gone.

37 posted on 09/12/2023 1:42:35 PM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: GaltAdonis

RE: 1992 insurrection by Los Angeles resident. True.

Maxine Waters.
Waters described the riots as a rebellion, saying, “If you call it a riot it sounds like it was just a bunch of crazy people who went out and did bad things for no reason.”
In her view, the violence was “a spontaneous reaction to a lot of injustice.”


The California Democratic representative has a history of defending violence.
In 1992 she called the LA Riots a ‘rebellion’ and said she wouldn’t ‘tell people to go inside, to be peaceful, that they have to accept the verdict’

Maxine Waters: L.A. Riots Were an ‘Insurrection,’ ‘Defining Moment’ in Black Resistance
Democratic Rep. Maxine Waters (Calif.) spoke to the Huffington Post on Thursday and fondly remembered the 1992 Los Angeles riots, insisting they were actually an “insurrection.”
More than 50 people were killed during the riots, with thousands more injured and over $1 billion in property damage. But Waters told the Huffington Post that the L.A. riots were “a milestone in the history of black people demanding justice.”

“These were people who had been basically forgotten,” Waters said. “And because of Rodney King’s beating and the current emotion that was stirring in that, it was like people were saying, ‘We’re here. You can’t do this to us. Look what you’re doing, look how you’ve been.’”

“So it was a defining moment in this country and I think a defining moment in the way that black people resisted,” she continued.

Waters’ history of calling the riots an “insurrection” dates back to the riots themselves.

“What I tried to do was take it out of the discussion of ‘these are just no good, crazy rioting people’ and to talk about what I call an insurrection, which made a lot of white people mad,” she recalled.

In one famous incident of “insurrection” broadcast across the county, four men dragged truck driver Reginald Denny out of his cab and beat him within an inch of his life.


Did Maxine Waters ‘Condone’ Violence, Looting During 1992 LA Riots?
The long-serving congresswoman’s comments were taken out of
context.
By Bethania Palma on Snopes website.

ME:
How about the “context” of her being a low IQ riot inciting danger to the country? Hmmmm?


38 posted on 09/12/2023 2:01:47 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: thefactor

Also, many people didn’t even have to get off their couch to vote
due to the myriad of election laws that allowed for voting by mail.

*********

voting by mail was one reason and the Covid lock down more
changes to some extent in the process. I believe there were three
counties voting in a mall that was still closed to the public. Also
I think mail in may have been abnormal that increased the total
votes. Just my observations, nothing official.


39 posted on 09/12/2023 2:17:59 PM PDT by deport
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To: DallasBiff

Let’s be honest, even Killary thought that if Trump was elected, they all (Democrats, RINOs, UniParty Prostitutes, etc.) would be hanging from a rope!

The two main saving grace they got was 1) our enemedia were (and still are) on the attack of Trump! So they ignore the evil corruption of Democrats and assign those evils to Trump! And two, the Deep State has been able to put quisling, limp-wristed, -peckered, -backboned “republicans” into Trump’s path like Bill Barr, and so many others (Mike Pence)!!

They know that Trump, being a lame duck, will not fall for that crap a second time and they fear they really WILL be hanging from ropes if he returns to the Oval Office!


40 posted on 09/12/2023 6:56:27 PM PDT by ExTxMarine
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