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The Long Term Payback from the Ukraine War
American Thinker ^ | September 8th, 2023 | Joseph Kulve

Posted on 09/08/2023 2:07:30 PM PDT by ChessExpert

A recent Zero Hedge article contains an interesting quote as to why the U.S. warhawks want the Ukraine war:

Beltway liberal elites... still think Russia must be punished given they see Moscow as having brought the "bad orange man" to power in 2016.

Sounds crazy, but that would explain what I have experienced on the ground (physically and linguistically) in Ukraine.

Ukrainian Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS):

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: russia; trump; ukraine
The author speaks Russian and Ukrainian and has been to the Ukraine. It seems he actually listens to people. It is amazing what one can hear if one only listens. (My liberal friends and relatives never listen). I am constantly amazed by the things people say. It seems the author had a similar experience in the Ukraine. Many Ukrainians hate Trump and you.
1 posted on 09/08/2023 2:07:30 PM PDT by ChessExpert
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To: ChessExpert

Good to know. I’ll give them more credence when they protest the billions of dollars we send them.


2 posted on 09/08/2023 2:21:58 PM PDT by SGCOS (not vaccinated for covid and never will be)
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The #1 way to support Ukraine and harm Russia is to drill baby drill. With Russia it’s first and foremost about energy. Always has been. Always will be.


3 posted on 09/08/2023 2:24:02 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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This goes beyond Trump.

Ukraine was the first former Soviet republic to buy Boeing aircraft for its state-run airline after the USSR broke up in the early 1990s.

This is why Boeing’s two South Carolina b!tches — Lindsey Graham and Nikki Haley— have been such passionate Ukrainian war pigs for years.

4 posted on 09/08/2023 2:26:20 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (“Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.”)
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The dems hate the Russians ever since the Soviet Union collapsed. Ted Kennedy tried to get the Soviets involved in the election. Their (the dem’s) arch-enemy Reagan brought about the collapse of the soviets and ended the cold war—an accomplishment they had coveted for years.

They’ve hated both Reagan and the Russians ever since—for denying them their place in history.

It’s a theory, but we know the dems are that kind of people.


5 posted on 09/08/2023 2:28:07 PM PDT by tsomer (We are under occupation.)
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The key take:

The Ukrainian government does not want a Trump now or in the future (Vivek Ramaswamy) to threaten the massive kickbacks (for the Biden crime organization) in return for vast “donations” from the U.S. military-industrial complex (financed by U.S., not E.U., taxpayers via hyperinflation). Globalist (not U.S.) insiders like Blackrock, mini-me Alex Soros, Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, et al., are making big investments for political connections and insider info for the future redistribution of Ukraine. Zelensky has specifically mentioned Blackrock in his blogs to the nation as a key player in the “rebuilding” of Ukraine. A backpacker friend of mine who hates Trump recently praised Buffett for donating money to rebuild a town square.

6 posted on 09/08/2023 2:47:49 PM PDT by Kazan
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Increased pierogi imports for the USA?


7 posted on 09/08/2023 2:53:02 PM PDT by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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I spent several weeks in Zurich last year. Most Swiss are pretty discerning on big picture issues, but they watch CNN and the BBC for news. Propaganda is easier to repeat and believe as truth than we give it credit for. The hatred for Trump in Ukraine made me think of how the Swiss feel - probably not as vecerally as Galciians and Volinians who have been duped into believing killing is a good thing.


8 posted on 09/08/2023 4:05:52 PM PDT by frithguild (The warmth and goodness of Gaia is a nuclear reactor in the Earth's core that burns Thorium)
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“Many Ukrainians hate Trump and you.”

It’s here on this forum. Anyone who posts about a peace settlement or cutting the aid is viciously attacked.


9 posted on 09/08/2023 5:50:21 PM PDT by rxh4n1
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The Democrats hate Russia because it is no longer communist.


10 posted on 09/08/2023 6:10:23 PM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (The only good commie is one that's dead - Country Joe McDonald)
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Many Americans hate Trump and you. Many of the pro-Russia people in fact will state that they support Russia because they hate "globalhomo". Anyone who cares to can find posts on this forum where ostensibly conservative "Americans" state they have a preference for Russia over their own country.

Maybe I am just a conspiracy theorist.

11 posted on 09/08/2023 6:26:30 PM PDT by Dat
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