Posted on 09/07/2023 1:24:50 PM PDT by Reno89519
Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) slammed former President Donald Trump for claiming he was not "allowed" to fire former White House chief medical adviser Anthony Fauci, who helped lead the nation's response to the COVID-19 pandemic.
DeSantis's comments come after Trump was asked on Hugh Hewitt's radio show Wednesday why he hadn't fired Fauci, who angered Republicans over his approach to masking and other pandemic-era guidance.
"First of all, you’re not allowed. He’s civil service, and you’re not allowed to fire him," Trump told Hewitt. "But forget that, because I don’t necessarily go by everything. But Dr. Fauci would tell me things, and I wouldn’t do them in many cases. But also, he wasn’t a big player in my administration."
The Florida governor dismissed Trump's defense, claiming he was pivoting from his previous comments about his relationship with Fauci.
"It's important to point out for a long time that was not his excuse," DeSantis told the Rubin Report on Wednesday. "His excuse had been that if you fired Fauci, both the Democrats and the media would have pitched a fit, which, of course, is 100% true."
"But that's the price of leadership. You got to stand up and do what's right," the governor continued. "Clearly, he could have been fired from the White House Task Force. There was no obligation to run him out at press conference after press conference, have him doing media interviews."
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"During the height of the COVID stuff in 2020, Fauci would do local hits in Florida media attacking me for having schools open and some of these other stuff," he said. "So, there was no obligation to do that. I think you could have also fired him from NIH because he had basically committed misconduct with the gain of function."
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Well apparently you are wrong since all those VA employees who were fired for abusing our vets have just been rehired.
You are incorrect. When a person accepts a position in the senior executive service he works at the whim of his superiors and can be fired for any reason.
*And he’s NOT a doctor*
Professor Francis Boyle, DOCTOR OF LAW, DOCTOR OF PHILOSOPHY wrote the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, approved by congress, passed by senate and signed by the president criminalizes the development, production, and stockpiling of bacteriological, biological, and toxin weapons and their use for destruction. The guy knows something about viral weaponry.
Judy Mikovits (re: May 4, 2020 documentary) PHD in biochemistry KNEW Dr. Fauci. She called him out by name and was trying to warn us about him early in the lock down.
Don’t you want to know?
Were you ever a fed? Because I know of feds at that level being fired, and of course an attorney is willing to take their money to challenge their firing .
You are incorrect. When a person accepts a position in the senior executive service he works at the whim of his superiors and can be fired for any reason.
Careerists on the merit system are protected by Pendleton and the U.S. Merit Systems Protection Board .
The President. cannot. directly. fire. a. careerist.
Political appointees are not protected.
Why, WHY, do I have to keep schooling you nimrods? The legacy of Pendleton and the creation of the MSPB are well-known! You Ronlims have got to stop f-ing up this simple sh!t, you look cheap and stupid.
CNN: Could Trump fire Fauci and what would that look like?MS: The President could not fire Fauci without cause. There are civil service protections for career federal employees that prevent them from being removed or demoted for political reasons.
CNN: When you say political reasons, what does that mean?
MS: I’ll give a tiny bit of history because it’s interesting and it goes back actually to 1881 when President James Garfield was assassinated by a would-be job seeker.
We had a spoils system that had dominated the government employment base and it didn’t work. You had people coming into positions of public import who were there not because of their capability but because of their political connections and in a remarkable turnaround, then-Vice President Chester Arthur, who was a product of that spoils system himself supported legislation – the Pendleton Civil Service Reform Act – that was a game-changer and professionalized the government employee base.
And it began a long process of making it more and more merit-based. And part of the outcome of that assassination then was a rule system that does not allow political leaders to remove or demote career civil servants without justification.
So the President would not in this context be able to fire Dr. Fauci on the basis of not liking what Tony Fauci had to say.
CNN: So it sounds like there are quite a few protections that separate him from, say, a Trump Cabinet pick whom the President could fire via a Tweet.
MS: Exactly right. A Senate-confirmed political appointee serves at the pleasure of the President. So the President may fire really for any reason a senior political appointee.
CNN: If Trump did attempt to remove Fauci, could you walk through what that would look like? Would you have to go through Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar?
MS: The President of United States couldn’t directly fire a career civil servant. They would have to go to someone in their chain of command. And so in this instance you’d have HHS Secretary Alex Azar or the Director for the National Institutes of Health Francis Collins.
CNN: OK. And even if someone in the chain of command were willing to dismiss Fauci, there are channels for him to appeal it?
MS: That’s correct. So he would have to be given, first, notice of what the allegation was. It would have to be misconduct or failure to follow orders or whatever else it might be. Then you have an opportunity to respond. And if the decision was still made to fire him, he could go to the Merit Systems Protection Board and ultimately to a court to claim that he was fired in violation of the civil service rules.
What a snitch. You’d go full nazi in a heartbeat.
Trump was an expert in commercial real estate, not government and politics.
He was probably told civil service can’t be fired by some doof that believes that’s somehow a fourth branch of government.
The prez can’t fire people arbitrarily though, like he can with appointees who serve “at the pleasure of the prez”.
He can fire employees with cause, such as for insubordination.
Something the swamp creatures don’t want you to know, and I’m sure no one mentioned that to Trump.
I have never seen a site like this where everyone is out to ban everyone else. It’s so entertaining.
What can you do when China Mitch hands you a list and says, if you don’t pick one of these people, they will be DOA in the Senate?
Ban the speech cops!
Thanks for reposting that.
It did not influence his nightly “look at me” show.
So you are saying because he was a germophobe, it prevented him from learning? Yikes. You cannot be serious.
The fact that people did not go to work sick actually led to one of the lowest flu seasons in recent history.
And, people actually washed their hands.
The average person at work is nasty when it comes to spreading disease.
No.
Find out why he wants who he wants and publicize the info in a speech.
Back room stuff hates the spotlight. Folks in congress never rat each other out but Trump has already made his money.
In the context of your response, you said it impacted his ability to respond to the pandemic.
Come on, thats just a silly position to take.
Yes you can be fired for cause. What cause do you suggest Trump should have used against Fauci when all the medical community, the hospitals, the FDA and the CDC agreed with Fauci?
I also know that Biden is hiring back the VA abusers.
You are incorrect. When a person accepts a position in the senior executive service he works at the whim of his superiors and can be fired for any reason.
You are incorrect. When a person accepts a position in the senior executive service he works at the whim of his superiors and can be fired for any reason.
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