Posted on 09/07/2023 1:24:50 PM PDT by Reno89519
It was a response to this post
“DeSantis is demonstrating his 20/20 hindsight.”
No. He is stating facts.
My point is that DeSantis is presenting a sanitized truth. DeSantis took some rather harsh and illogical covid positions such as closing beaches. He did stop the shutdowns in his state but not very early. Other states had already opened before Florida.
IMO mistakes were made because the facts were unclear and lies were aggressively spread by Fauci and others who knowingly lied, pushed unsafe ineffective therapies and blocked safe effective therapies. Not America’s finest moment. I don’t think DeSantis should be revising the past for political purposes either to boost himself or attack Trump.
So when did the Meatball from FLA advise Trump to fire Fauci?
“My point is that DeSantis is presenting a sanitized truth. DeSantis took some rather harsh and illogical covid positions such as closing beaches. He did stop the shutdowns in his state but not very early. Other states had already opened before Florida.”
He did close some beaches but that was because he was facing a massive influx of spring breakers to certain beaches and was relying on the advice of Trump and local authorities. Most beaches stayed open.
Trump is the one revising history: “Surprise, Ron (DeSantis) was a big lockdown governor on the China virus, sealing all beaches and everything else for an extended period of time,” former President Donald Trump said in a March 22 statement.
Lie
RDS shut down Fla before he opened it up.
“I meant DeSantis. I’m sorry I was unclear.”
Since your post applied to Trump and not to DeSantis I was confused.
Shouldn’t a courageous leader buck popular opinion to do the right thing?
“I don’t understand why you guys are not fully on board with pence now that desanctomonious is all but out. I thought all you rat traitors stuck together.”
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They’ll vote for Biden again, just to spite President Trump supporters.
Thanks I would prefer not to litigate a contentious and complex past that can be interpreted many ways. Let us agree to disagree here.
“They’ll vote for Biden again, just to spite President Trump supporters.”
Garbage. DeSantis will vote R in the general. We have seen posts here from Trump supporters saying they will stay home if Trump is not nominated.
“Thanks I would prefer not to litigate a contentious and complex past that can be interpreted many ways. Let us agree to disagree here.”
I posted facts. It is not that complex. Trump lied.
“They’ll vote for Biden again, just to spite President Trump supporters.”
You pinged me.
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Posted on 7/9/2023, 2:33:27 AM by Jim Robinson
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Trump wouldn’t fire him as he was Senior Executive Service.
That did not mean Trump needed to listen to Fauci. He could have had him stand in the background and say nothing.
Trump handled the pandemic poorly. He foisted the vaccine on us. He locked us down. And he spent trillions.
The entire government class was so terrified of making mistake, they were paralyzed into making “safe”decisions. They turned out to be horrible mistakes.
At least we know what NOT to do next time.
“DeSantis hits Trump for saying he couldn’t fire Fauci”
Who’s this ‘DeSantis’ guy? Never heard of him until now.
I do not agree. DeSantis did close beaches, other beaches were closed by local authorities. Trump made an overstrong statement but not a lie. More of a simplification. That is the reason I do not want to get into an argy bargy here. Both sides are using curated storylines.
“Surprise, Ron was a big lockdown governor on the China virus, sealing all beaches and everything else for an extended period of time,” Trump said in a statement posted to Truth Social March 22. “Remember, I left that decision up to the governors.”
DeSantis boasted that he kept beaches open in his recent book ”The Courage to Be Free” — a statement we found misleading. But Trump’s suggestion that DeSantis closed all the state’s beaches also misses the mark.
https://www.axios.com/2020/03/19/florida-spring-break-beaches-coronavirus
You bring up a good point. Trump could have been given a good briefing on pandemics in an afternoon. He isn’t stupid. But a relatively smart person could understand viruses and pandemics at a graduate school level after reading three books on the subject. It’s not hard. It’s not even really “science class.”
He did not seem to understand how viruses spread and why a coronavirus has never been “cured.”
It was actually frustrating and sad to watch him flounder.
Yes, that is the big result of fear—got the sniffles, stay home; a snow flake forecast, stay home; everything is Danger! Danger! Cower and hide, fear everything.
Lean in Ron!
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