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For 30 years, a memorial to Ukrainian Nazi collaborators sat largely unnoticed just outside Philadelphia. Now it’s drawing outrage.
The Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | Sep 3, 2023 | William Bender and Ryan W. Briggs

Posted on 09/03/2023 8:20:37 AM PDT by Ikemeister

A monument outside of Phiily dedicated to a Ukrainian SS unit is stirring up trouble.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: nazi; ukraine
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Maybe the left is running out of Confederate statues?
1 posted on 09/03/2023 8:20:37 AM PDT by Ikemeister
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To: Ikemeister

Kinda strange it being there


2 posted on 09/03/2023 8:22:41 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: AppyPappy

“Kinda strange it being there”

Probably forgot to ship it to Ukraine.


3 posted on 09/03/2023 8:23:59 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: Ikemeister
So LEAVE IT! It is history, maybe a nice explanatory sign could be put there to tell what it is, etc. But we have to quit ERASSING and REWRITING history, supposedly we are supposed to LEARN from history.

When I visited Germany, I was amazed at the lack of historical documentation ... you would never know there was a war there in most places. NAZI, Commie, etc ... it doesn't matter, we need to REMEMBER. Here in the USA, when the lefties are finished, there will not be one confederate civil war monument ... The only remaining monuments will depict only ONE SIDE of the Civil War... and it will be an historical LIE.

4 posted on 09/03/2023 8:26:49 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (Accepting a false premise confirms defeat. Transgender? (No such thing, next subject))
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To: BobL

How about Lenin...two statues running around in the USA.


5 posted on 09/03/2023 8:28:54 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

“supposedly we are supposed to LEARN from history.”

That is what the elites fear most—that we learn from history.

They want to repeat history—want to be the new Pharaohs with obedient slaves.


6 posted on 09/03/2023 8:29:58 AM PDT by cgbg ("Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training." Anna Freud.)
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To: Sacajaweau

As I remember the Ukes thought of Germany as liberators after the Stalin starved them. Kinda like the Irish supporting the Krauts because they hated England.


7 posted on 09/03/2023 8:31:19 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (e allowed )
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
Near the American Cemetery at Normandy, is the German Cemetery, which is still well-kept, although few go there, compared to the American cemetery.


8 posted on 09/03/2023 8:31:51 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
As I remember the Ukes thought of Germany as liberators after the Stalin starved them.

The biggest mistake the Germans made was not taking advantage of that, and at least offering Ukraine some measure of autonomy, along the lines of what they did with Slovakia.

9 posted on 09/03/2023 8:33:25 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Too bad the bomb wasnt ready because we should have nuked Germany too.


10 posted on 09/03/2023 8:35:28 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

“If you don’t learn from history, or are unwilling to do so, you are condemned to repeat it over and over until you do” Unfortunately most humans are slow learners.


11 posted on 09/03/2023 8:38:15 AM PDT by Saintgermain
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To: Wilderness Conservative

Problem is nuking Germany will result in fallout impacting non-Germans.

That wasn’t an issue with bombing Japan, due to it being relatively isolated.


12 posted on 09/03/2023 8:39:19 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Ikemeister

Until WW I, Galicia was part of Poland or Austria-Hungary and firmly within the Catholic part of Europe.

It was natural that Galicians would ally with Germany against Orthodox Russia.


13 posted on 09/03/2023 8:39:47 AM PDT by FarCenter
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Too bad the bomb wasnt ready because we should have nuked Germany too.

Don't worry. Many innocent German civilians died in the fire bombing of Dresden. Perhaps staring at the photos will bring joy and meaning to your life.

14 posted on 09/03/2023 8:40:24 AM PDT by Angelino97
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Don't worry. Many innocent German civilians died in the fire bombing of Dresden. Perhaps staring at the photos will bring joy and meaning to your life.

Warsaw 1945. So I shed no tears for Dresden.

15 posted on 09/03/2023 8:42:03 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: FarCenter

Galicia was also a hotbed of Ukranian nationalism, and in the forties the Ukranians there fought and killed Poles as well as Russians. They had been spared the horrors of the famine that might explain the behavior of other Ukranians, but that didn’t matter.


16 posted on 09/03/2023 8:44:16 AM PDT by x
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To: x

Wołyń - (Not for the squeamish)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdWPAwAjSEs


17 posted on 09/03/2023 8:46:20 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Ikemeister

More crying wailing, gnashing of teeth, and of course a potload of money will make all those offended feel much better. It’s in a cemetery in a foreign language, who cares, other than the perpetually offended looking for more publicity and more importantly, another payday?


18 posted on 09/03/2023 8:48:47 AM PDT by euram (allALL)
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To: FarCenter

“It was natural that Galicians would ally with Germany against Orthodox Russia.”

No. Many members of the division were Orthodox. There was no “Orthodox Russia in 1943. There was only the Soviet Union. There were plenty of Russian Orthodox who opposed the Soviet Union too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Liberation_Army


19 posted on 09/03/2023 8:53:58 AM PDT by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Precisely


20 posted on 09/03/2023 8:55:58 AM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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