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Tucker Carlson claims US HATES Russia because it's a 'Christian' country
Daily Mail ^ | Aug 30 | By LEWIS PENNOCK

Posted on 08/30/2023 2:15:41 AM PDT by RandFan

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To: hardspunned
Under Communism, from Stalin to Gorbachev, homosexuality was considered illegal, pornography was not readily available, and narcotics were prohibited. During the first few years of Bolshevism, moral decadence was encouraged, as it is currently in this country, with the purposes of weakening the family and destroying the Russian Orthodox Church. However, the Stalinists, coming to power about a decade after the October Revolution, realized that moral anarchy was undermining the social fabric. So they reinstated the laws restricting sexual license. They were not Christians; the Communists continued to persecute believers harshly until World War II necessitated restoring the Orthodox Church in order to get the Slavic peoples to fight the Nazis.

The post-Soviet Russian government never repealed the Stalin era laws passed by atheists to strengthen the USSR, unlike the Western nations that repealed restrictions imposed by once Christian legislatures. Putin sometimes goes to church. But so do Biden, Pelosi, Obama, etc., yet most on FR would deny the American politicians are Christians.

More significant are the facts that Russia is closely aligned with Red China, the Russians maintain close ties with Communist controlled nations from North Korea to Venezuela, and the relics of Communism, such as the red star over the Kremlin and the prominence of Lenin's tomb in Red Square speak more of Russia's true orientation than a Russian leader publicly making the Sign of the Cross occasionally.

21 posted on 08/30/2023 3:27:13 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Texas Fossil

Thank you the link to the Orban-Tucker interview. Great stuff. But it makes me sad. The contrast between a Trump-like patriot president and the driveling moron who pretends to be the leader in this country could not be more stark. Lucky Hungary. Poor us.


22 posted on 08/30/2023 3:28:58 AM PDT by Blennos
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To: RandFan

Tucker Carlson is soaked in the US culture war. His analysis is terribly parochial. In Europe it certainly doesnt look like a religious war. Nobody sees Russia as a religious nation. Over here this take would come across as absurd.

Poland, for one, is much more religious than Russia. Its got its own problems with Euro bien pensants, but thats not a cause for war.


23 posted on 08/30/2023 3:31:03 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Blennos

Yes Sir. Sad, but with great anger. Not hate, but ANGER!


24 posted on 08/30/2023 3:32:33 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: RandFan

I’m 70.

I grew up a G.I. Brat, well versed in the Soviet empire, and what their known plans were. I take it personally, that somme second string baseball playing law student from Harvard, decided that he wanted to point a missile with a nuclear warhead, at me! Later on, I served in the military, and performed my duty to stop the spread of commjunism in Asia, and operated in Cold War chessgames.

Add some time down the road, when I was interacting with Russian families who hhave sought political/religious asylum here.

The Soviet system is dead, but like the German nazi’s, whispers still abound.

Under the Tsars, the country sas Christian. The Soviets tried but did not erase that, entirely. Since the Fall of The Berlin Wall, there has been a slow but steady resurgence. Mssr. Putin, in his desire for Mother Russia to regain her oldd standing, without an aristocracy, knows that the orthodoxy played a major role.

So, do I ‘hate Russia’? No more than I do that grizzly bear in ‘the back 40’. I do keep watch, and equipped should he wish to make a meal of me.

I’m just plain disgusted when other folks employ the word ‘we’ and wish my silent approval!
Lots of times, since I am 71, really, I.J.D.G.A.F.!!


25 posted on 08/30/2023 3:33:55 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: RandFan

Yes, his argument fits the data quite well. Better than any other explanation we’ve heard


26 posted on 08/30/2023 3:35:05 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They're excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: RandFan
Absurd, Both Russia, the US, Ukraine etc. contain real Christians (and the Left wants to really "contain" them, - and under Putin Russia has criminalized the sharing of faith by anyone other than the RO's without their permission., which the Left lusts to do, with its state church being WOKEism), none are predominately true Christian countries.
27 posted on 08/30/2023 3:35:35 AM PDT by daniel1212 (As a damned+destitute sinner turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves souls on His acct + b baptized 2 obey)
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To: RandFan
He's right.


28 posted on 08/30/2023 3:40:05 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: buwaya

Please view the 2nd link in my post #15, Victor Orbán is very perceptive and he “get’s it with Russia. And he explains it well.


29 posted on 08/30/2023 3:42:10 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: RandFan

I think it’s obvious that the people in the West who hate Russia are virtually the same people who hate Christianity and what it stands for, so Tucker does have a point here.


30 posted on 08/30/2023 3:43:29 AM PDT by BobL (Trump has all the right Enemies; DeSantis has all the wrong Friends)
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To: joesbucks

I’m glad so many here realize Tucker’s statement was an exaggeration or worse.

I loved Tucker’s show and he’s right that the left hates Christians and conservative values. In fact, since Tucker was fired I have not allowed my tv to be on Fox for even a second.

However, Tucker developed a hatred for Ukraine and helping Ukraine that is irrational.

Ukraine is a more Christian country than Russia.
Russia has engaged in a many decades long campaign against us and Russia’s neighbors. Supporting world monsters like N. Korea, Iran, Syria, Cuba.

Just because the left in America is evil does not mean Ukraine is evil, or that Russia is virtuous.

Unfortunately, we’re stuck with a horrible Democrat president at the moment. That doesn’t mean the world threats to America have gone away.

Tucker’s bias is such that he promoted many unworthy beliefs and awful guests (like MacGregor) and misled many people here about Ukraine and Russia.

One such argument is his belief that Biden literally wants a war with Russia, and somehow that explains or excuses Russia invading Ukraine.

Putin is a KGB psycopath, not a Christian.


31 posted on 08/30/2023 3:44:13 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: RandFan

Democrats never forgave Russia for abandoning Communism.


32 posted on 08/30/2023 3:44:41 AM PDT by Husker24 (Pp)
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To: Blennos

Thank you the link to the Orban-Tucker interview. Great stuff. But it makes me sad. The contrast between a Trump-like patriot president and the driveling moron who pretends to be the leader in this country could not be more stark. Lucky Hungary. Poor us.
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That interview was a breath of fresh air. Just to see firsthand a leader in the world who has their head screwed on straight is so inspiring. Now, if the U.S. and the rest of the world held that same position the world would be so much better off. Why it’s not so, has to be caused by anti-humanist, evil-inspired thought and behavior.


33 posted on 08/30/2023 3:45:39 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: Terry L Smith

Agree.

Please view the 2nd link in my Post #15. Interview with Victor Orbán. He totally get’s what Russia is. You will not be disappointed.


34 posted on 08/30/2023 3:46:04 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: faithhopecharity
The US official religion is WOKEism, with true Biblical Christians being a decreasing minority, and while Putin may be an instrument of Divine chastisement of America, and which should commend Putin's opposition to the LGBTQ agenda, yet he is the dictator of corrupt government and which persecutes the most conservative Christians, evangelicals, even outlawing any evangelism by them or any other church apart from RRO sanction. The Left here years to do what Russia has done, with its Law: No Evangelizing Outside of Church | News ...

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Also, while the Left in the West promotes profuse perversity, and engages in child abuse, abortion rates are still higher in Russia:

35 posted on 08/30/2023 3:55:39 AM PDT by daniel1212 (As a damned+destitute sinner turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves souls on His acct + b baptized 2 obey)
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To: RandFan

Russia has a Christian State Religion. It’s not the way we define Christianity. But, there have been Churches in Russia since before Europeans came to America. And, I am including the Vikings in that statement.


36 posted on 08/30/2023 3:57:34 AM PDT by MMusson
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To: daniel1212

I have not traveled Russia; there fore I can not comment on how many Christians there are nor their character or following the teachings of Christ.
But from what I have heard Russia does not allow any practice christian of faiths other than Russian Orthodox; by law. That does not strike me as a christian nation.
True, the US has fallen a great distance lately and many of the people in the US comes far short of following the teachings of Christ.
The US leaders hate anyone that tries to take their power and money a way.


37 posted on 08/30/2023 3:58:33 AM PDT by jimfr
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To: Wpin
Vlad's faux Christianity fools others but not us.

Remember divorce, ya know, that mortal sin? Putin is cool with that sin. Dumped his wife and is shacking up with a youngster. Yeah, a real bastion of morality.

Same thing with abortion. It took decades, but SCOTUS repealed Roe. Russia? The same government that passes red meat anti-trans laws refuses to ban abortion. I guess infanticide is ok. Real solid morality right there.

Russian leaders like Putin would stream Brokeback Mountain and fly the rainbow flag above the Kremlin if he thought it would bring him more power and cash.

He has the Cross in his hand and the devil in his heart. We got his number. If he doesn't repent, I hope he enjoys the lake of fire.

Anna Politkovskaya

Boris Nemtsov

Viktor Yushchenko (still here)

Putin's foreign minister Sergei Lavrov 'poses alongside "mistress" and "porn star prostitute" during official trip to Japan' in photo revealed by new exposé

The leadership of Russia - ya know...that nation that lectures America on morality - is in reality a bunch of unrepentant filthy slime.

No nation is perfect, but I’ll take America over the Soviets any day.

38 posted on 08/30/2023 3:59:51 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: RandFan

Us govt. No. the people. If you haven’t witnessed hatred of the Russians on a personal level you haven’t been paying attention


39 posted on 08/30/2023 4:01:00 AM PDT by stanne
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To: RandFan

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40 posted on 08/30/2023 4:05:42 AM PDT by sauropod (I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.)
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