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Outrage after two mountain lions died when California wildlife officials moved them from the mountains to the Mojave Desert
UK Daily Mail ^ | 8/28/2023 | Hope Sloop

Posted on 08/28/2023 3:08:37 PM PDT by fruser1

Indignation has grown after two mountain lions died when wildlife officials moved them from the California mountains to the Mojave Desert - as the state admits 'in hindsight' it erred.

The two male mountain lions who were moved starved to death while trying to return home to their female counterparts to protect them.

'In hindsight, it wasn't a good place to release those lions,' said Tom Stephenson, a senior environmental scientist at the California Department of Fish and Wildlife.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; ecostupid; gavinnewsom
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Not that I really give a crap about these critters, but the story exemplifies the stupidity of "the experts".
1 posted on 08/28/2023 3:08:37 PM PDT by fruser1
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To: fruser1

You can kill a child but not one of these oversize housecats.


2 posted on 08/28/2023 3:16:32 PM PDT by Colt1851Navy (What was wrong with Nixon?)
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The two male mountain lions who were moved starved to death while trying to return home to their female counterparts to protect them.

Complete B.S.

Big cats have territories. They defend the territories. Mountain lions will try to get back to their territories.

This is pure anthropomorphism.

3 posted on 08/28/2023 3:19:16 PM PDT by marktwain
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Somebody should drop the “wildlife officials” off in the middle of Detroit.


4 posted on 08/28/2023 3:19:22 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████. FJB.)
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A distinction without a difference.

They tried to get back home.


5 posted on 08/28/2023 3:20:38 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████. FJB.)
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To: fruser1

At least the pronghorn sheep can breathe a little easier now. Lol!

I love it when environmental crazies go after each other.


6 posted on 08/28/2023 3:22:06 PM PDT by READINABLUESTATE (Make orwell fiction again)
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They tried to get back home.

It is a certainty, they were relocated because they were causing persistent problems in their territory.

A "best kept secret" most relocations of large predators ends with either the predator making it back to its original territory; or the predatory dies.

Very few make a success in a new territory. If they do, it is at the expense of another predator.

7 posted on 08/28/2023 3:25:27 PM PDT by marktwain
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If only they could be hunted....


8 posted on 08/28/2023 3:29:41 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: marktwain

Drop any living creature off miles from home and they won’t have a clue where to find water or food or shelter or anything.

It’s not rocket surgery.


9 posted on 08/28/2023 3:36:07 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████. FJB.)
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To: fruser1

It’s a common mistake to confuse mountain lions with desert lions.


10 posted on 08/28/2023 3:37:20 PM PDT by chickenlips (Neuter your politicians)
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Rocket surgery? Is that an expression? I’ve heard of rocket science but not rocket surgery.


11 posted on 08/28/2023 3:42:31 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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“Rocket surgery? Is that an expression? I’ve heard of rocket science but not rocket surgery.”

Seriously? You’ve never heard the sarcasm play on words that combines the term rocket science with brain surgery? You’ve led a sheltered internet life.


12 posted on 08/28/2023 3:44:44 PM PDT by Danie_2023
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Drop any living creature off miles from home and they won’t have a clue where to find water or food or shelter or anything.

Exactly so. The entire "relocation" theme is Disney inspired hokum. When large predators are causing problems, the best solution is to put them in a zoo. If nobody will take them, the will need to be destroyed.

Most places know holding large, common predators, such as mountain lions, is very expensive. Chances of finding a zoo for them is highly unlikely; therefore culling them is the best choice.

People who disagree can fund walled sanctuaries for them, and fund their food. It is a very expensive proposition.

13 posted on 08/28/2023 3:45:54 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Dilbert San Diego

It is an advanced form of sarcasm that only sarcasm black-belts know about. You wouldn’t understand.


14 posted on 08/28/2023 3:48:56 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████. FJB.)
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To: Danie_2023

That train has sailed.


15 posted on 08/28/2023 3:57:20 PM PDT by eclectic (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: READINABLUESTATE

Pronghorns are not sheep-they are antelope-like hoofed critters-bighorn sheep are what the mountain lions were dining on-also a wild animal and their natural prey, like the pronghorns-but i guess the idiot wildlife folks would rather have the lions eating some rancher’s sheep/cattle, rather than natural prey? idiots-Nature is balanced if you leave it mostly alone...


16 posted on 08/28/2023 4:00:35 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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And they have jumped the boat...


17 posted on 08/28/2023 4:01:45 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: eclectic

Lol. Indeed it has.


18 posted on 08/28/2023 4:06:32 PM PDT by Danie_2023
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"'In hindsight, it wasn't a good place to release those lions,' said Tom Stephenson.."

In other words heads so far up their arse there's no room for logic.

19 posted on 08/28/2023 4:14:34 PM PDT by chief lee runamok (Anti Socialist Flâneur@Large)
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said Tom Stephenson, a senior environmental scientist at the California Department of Fish and Wildlife.

120 grand a year and a PhD, and he wouldn't be able to pour water out of a boot with the instructions printed on the heel...

20 posted on 08/28/2023 4:19:42 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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