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We don’t want to join Russia, breakaway Georgian region warns
Politico ^ | 25th August 2023 | Gabriel Gavin

Posted on 08/25/2023 6:21:17 AM PDT by Cronos

Georgia’s separatist-held region of Abkhazia has firmly rejected suggestions it could be annexed by Russia, insisting that its autonomy from Moscow is not up for discussion.

In a statement issued by the unrecognized South Caucasus state’s foreign ministry on Thursday, officials said that while it is “a steadfast ally of the Russian Federation,” its self-proclaimed statehood “is not a subject for debate.”

The comments come shortly after the deputy chairman of the Kremlin’s Security Council, former president Dmitry Medvedev, hinted that Moscow could seek to absorb the two Russian-backed breakaway regions of neighboring Georgia — Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

the secretary of Abkhazia’s security council, Sergey Shamba, went further, pointing out that there “are no political entities” in the region pushing for integration with Russia.

“We haven’t received any formal requests to join the Russian Federation, and I’m yet to identify any political faction within Abkhazia that envisions such a relationship dynamic with Russia,” he went on.

Home to around a quarter of a million people and with its own distinct language, Abkhazia has existed as a de facto independent state from Georgia since a brutal civil war which followed the fall of the Soviet Union in the early 1990s. Hundreds of thousands of ethnic Georgians were displaced from the region, which borders Russia, as part of a campaign by the separatists, who were frequently backed by elements of the Russian armed forces.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: georgia

The ethnolinguistic mix of the Caucasus region is fascinatingly diverse

1 posted on 08/25/2023 6:21:17 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

“The ethnolinguistic mix of the Caucasus region is fascinatingly diverse.”

Very much so.


2 posted on 08/25/2023 6:27:55 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Cronos

Divide and conquer.

It still works after 2000 years..................


3 posted on 08/25/2023 6:28:13 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Cronos

The Soviet Union purposely screwed up the political borders to make regions “non-coherent.” They also moved the ethnic residents to different regions and flooded the area with ethnically Russian settlers. There was also a lot of ethnic cleansing where the Russians used other ethnicities to reduce the population of rival ethnicities to further prevent any future where someone might try to replace Russian leadership with the more local type. Having said all that many of these regions are not viable by themselves. I understand why they don’t want any political leadership from groups that historically “cleansed” them in the past. But if you’re landlocked and have no resources, what kind of nation will you make? I certainly hope there is a Hell and the people who helped create this problem are burning in it.


4 posted on 08/25/2023 7:10:21 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: Cronos

The Abkaz could find out that Russia simply won’t permit them the luxury of choosing.

Medvedev could be venting his spleen, floating a trial balloon, or articulating state policy, hard to tell.


5 posted on 08/25/2023 7:11:44 AM PDT by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.")
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The ethnolinguistic mix of the Caucasus region is fascinatingly diverse

And here I thought all Caucasians were equally evil; at least that's what the DEI people have been saying for years now.

All right, I'll be Sirius. Nationalism, which began in the mid 1800s and hit its global stride by the mid-20th century, is historically abnormal. Most people are tribal, whether it be the Avar of Dagestan or Polk County in central Florida. From time to time throughout history one group rises up and conquers all the tribal areas, forming an empire (Indus, Babylonian/Persian/Greek/Parthian, Roman, Mongol, Russian, British, Japanese) which lasts for a while, then disintegrates into tribal groups. Most nations are too big to be tribal and too small to be imperial, which is why they generally don't work.

The US lasted as long as it did because the federal government allowed the states freedom to choose laws for themselves, who in turn allowed the "tribal areas" freedom to enforce laws for themselves, but technology and totalitarianism concentrates all power in the DS. This creates a catch-22: we despise the deep state because it has taken our freedom, but when that collapses, the result will not be freedom but tribalism.

6 posted on 08/25/2023 7:20:06 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Cronos

I need Abkhazia coins for my collection. Overly expensive.


7 posted on 08/25/2023 7:54:21 AM PDT by Doctor Congo
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To: drop 50 and fire for effect

“The Abkaz could find out that Russia simply won’t permit them the luxury of choosing.”

Yes, being a Russian ally isn’t a very fun position. You gain the benefit that Russia will protect you from your enemies, but you have the problem that no one will protect you from Russia.


8 posted on 08/25/2023 8:16:04 AM PDT by Renfrew (Muscovia delenda est)
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How many Russian/Soviet bigwigs were from Georgia? Wasn’t Kruschev? That makes them Vichy-types. Let them suffer.


9 posted on 08/25/2023 8:26:03 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (e allowed )
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To: Cronos

Russia looking at expansion again? This will surely be a shock to those anti Ukraine freepers who believe Russia is just a benevolent old uncle wanting the best for its neighbors.


10 posted on 08/25/2023 8:29:04 AM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: Cronos

So Abkhazia is putting everyone on notice that we do not intend to commit suicide (in case anything happens to us).
I wonder if Ohio could just slip out of Los Estados Unidos without Brandon noticing.


11 posted on 08/25/2023 8:35:49 AM PDT by shalom aleichem (Sick 'n Tired! Tell us wnat to DO about it! )
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Stalin is the one who was Georgian.

The people of the Caucuses are martial people born to resilience by a thousand years of fights with the people of the next valley over.

By contrast the Russian people have been beaten into subservience by the brutal repression of whoever is in charge.

That makes Russians easy prey for people from the mountains and the Soviet period saw many from those small minorities ruling over the Russian masses.


12 posted on 08/25/2023 9:16:28 AM PDT by Renfrew (Muscovia delenda est)
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