Posted on 08/23/2023 5:08:04 PM PDT by Alter Kaker
Wagner Group commander Dmitry Utkin was reportedly among the 10 people killed in a plane crash north of Moscow that also is believed to have claimed the life of Yevgeny Prigozhin.
Utkin, a former Russian military intelligence officer, has Nazi tattoos on his body. He helped co-found the militant group and came up with the name “Wagner,” which derived from Adolf Hilter’s favorite composer, Richard Wagner.
According to reports, Utkin and Prigozhin were just two of Wagner's top men who were listed as passengers on the flight.
(Excerpt) Read more at themessenger.com ...
SS collar tabs and then a Wehrmacht eagle?? He should have tattooed the SS eagle on his upper left arm!
Well, that post didn’t last long!
Well done, Alter and Mods.
I get a lot less hysterical than most about “X are the real Nazis” since that is a leftist framing.
But Azov is a Brigade, not just a handful of people. And my main issue with Azov is their crimes against the civilian population of Mariupol etc. during 2014-22.
This is exactly what I mean about the majority of you people who are totally clueless about this whole conflict.
What exactly do you think the Minsk 1 & Minsk 2 Agreements were all about?
Come back when you educate yourself on the topic.
What's more is that the Azov Battalion are actual Nazis. Does Russia have Nazis? Yes, we even brought in Nazis after WWII to work on missile programs, because they were far more advanced on missile technology than we were.
“Is the USA full of Nazis and in need of invasion?”
To your average Commie like Rev Wright that is exactly what they dream of. Foreign troops marching through our streets and appointing Rev Wright as the local commissar.
“What exactly do you think the Minsk 1 & Minsk 2 Agreements were all about?”
You think Obama’s foreign policy was good?
“Is the USA full of Nazis and in need of invasion?”
No. And hysteria about “Nazis” is a leftist framing that I refuse to go along with.
I was just pointing out for people that are really into the “X are the real Nazis”, Azov has a lot higher numbers than a handful in the US military or this Wagner guy.
Where is your concern for the citizens of Maui who the government wants a one-time $700 payment, while we citizens pay the retirement benefits of the Ukrainians, along with all kinds of other assistance. That's on top of the 2200.00 dollars we pay for each invader into our nation, every month.
You see, you believe this is all about Russia invading Ukraine with absolutely no justification whatsoever, and that our involvement there is limited to supplying military & monetary aid in assistance to the effort. But our involvement goes far beyond that. You & I are also paying for the retirement benefits of the Ukrainian people, as well as, the day to day care of the Ukrainian people. Quite frankly it's a terrible investment with no return at all, only payouts. when we have to rebuild Ukraine, you & I will get the bill from Blackrock who will reap all of the money & screw us the tax paying Americans out of more money for these criminals. You seem to be a knowledgeable person about a lot of things, but this topic is not one of them for sure.
In addition to that, we are paying the illegal invaders of our nation 2200.00 dollars a month from the to live on, which is coming out of the Social Security every working American pays into, even of they are self-employed and are ineligible to collect it, while we support all of these people.
A tragic event happened in Maui, just like a tragic event happened in East Palestine Ohio, and out government wants to give each person affected by the fire 700.00 dollars.
I guess you are just too stupid to make the connection, or too callous, neither of which shine well upon you at all.
That connection, just so you will understand, is that I don't care about the Ukrainian people who brought this upon themselves with their hatred, I care mor about providing assistance to American citizens in their time of desperate need.
It relevant because it talks about priorities. If you lost everything overnight, and perhaps a few family members in the process, I would want the same for you. Then you actually might agree with me.
If Russia had invaded Ukraine without any provocation, then I might feel differently about Ukraine, until there cam e need to help American in need, then Ukraine would take 2nd in priority.
But again, nice try.
Do you think Obama's foreign policies were good? I ask because, after all, you are supporting his work now with the aiding of Ukraine in this conflict that Ukraine had a big part in causing Putin's eventual invasion. Or do you think that Biden is the actual president?
“Obama played no role whatsoever in the Minsk Agreements”
The were written by John Kerry as part of Obama’s failed appeasement strategy.
Sounds more like Putin just ‘de-nazified’ Russia...now back to doing the same in Ukraine.
Nice try, kid.
Not one thing you just mentioned has anything to do with the thread, which is about Russian and Ukrainian “Nazis.” So, you have in effect agreed that your original comment about Maui was a non-sequitur and a strawman.
If you want to wax eloquent about misspending and bad fiscal policies, start a new thread. But don’t try to hijack the present one.
You know what, I give you far too much credit. You are an idiot, but your stupidity does not rule me. Have a blessed day.
Nice try.
Logic escapes you, so you should be pitied, as life must be tough for you.
As my young neighbor would say, “Hasta la bye-bye.”
Nah, Pooptin murdered a couple of Nazis who worked for Putin. There are plenty more in Putin’s coterie
“SS collar tabs and then a Wehrmacht eagle?? He should have tattooed the SS eagle on his upper left arm!”
Or, check his left armpit for the SS serial number?
We have been much too tolerant with the fools of this nation, and the time has long past as to when we should have started speaking the truth about the nonsense you people bring to the table.
Oh, & I'm not surprised that your young neighbor influences you, instead of the other way around.
Struck a nerve, did I?
And, my young neighbor (all of four years old) is picking up some Spanish from the housekeeper. She’s trying; which is more than I can say for you.
No, you didn't hit a nerve, you have just exposed yourself as the idiot that you really are. and I no longer will refrain from telling you the unvarnished truth about yourself. It was a choice I made without anger, just disgust at your utter ignorance. Have a blessed day.
You sound angry.
This is going to be fun.
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