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To: george76

Why did he not divert the water first and ask for permission later?

Does he think writing a scathing bureaucratic screed will quiet the ghosts of the dead children that he let burn because of lack of water?

This is not a “man”, but a testicle-free trans-demon pretending to be large and in-charge.


9 posted on 08/23/2023 11:55:44 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer

>> Why did he not divert the water first and ask for permission later? <<

I’m guessing he didn’t have the physical controls to make the diversion.


22 posted on 08/23/2023 12:06:56 PM PDT by dangus
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To: RFEngineer
Why did he not divert the water first and ask for permission later?

You would think.

There are several crises in the past few years that would have been small bumps if people on the ground had just said, the heck with the home office, and done what they knew was right.

If you get any push back later you just go public and say, I was on the ground, I made the call, I stand behind it, people's lives are important not what some paper pushing bureaucrat wants to chase their tail over.

49 posted on 08/23/2023 2:15:34 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Follow the money. Even if it leads you to someplace horrible it will still lead you to the truth.)
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To: RFEngineer

> Why did he not divert the water first and ask for permission later?

IIRC according to some timelines, the uphill lahaina fire did not restart until around 3:00 PM. At about 3:30 PM, the local emergency management sends out a shelter-in-place message. At 4:45PM, they close the bypass. In particular, given all of the apparent simultaneous communications problems, they might have been faced with a no-win situation: if they OK’d the use of the water without permission and it worked, then the emergency would have ceased, and they would be open to a lawsuit for stealing culturally significant water resource for no evident bottom line reason. these kinds of problems could have been solved or at least ameliorated by a comprehensive fire emergency plan that covered wind and weather, emergency water usage, power distribution (including emergency power), ground foliage trimming, communication (including siren usage and cell phone coverage), and emergency evacuation. up through the present, i am not aware that such an emergency fire plan exists. it would not surprise me if such a plan was a rarity on other islands (outside of oahu perhaps).


56 posted on 08/23/2023 3:01:33 PM PDT by SteveH
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