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To: RFEngineer

> Why did he not divert the water first and ask for permission later?

IIRC according to some timelines, the uphill lahaina fire did not restart until around 3:00 PM. At about 3:30 PM, the local emergency management sends out a shelter-in-place message. At 4:45PM, they close the bypass. In particular, given all of the apparent simultaneous communications problems, they might have been faced with a no-win situation: if they OK’d the use of the water without permission and it worked, then the emergency would have ceased, and they would be open to a lawsuit for stealing culturally significant water resource for no evident bottom line reason. these kinds of problems could have been solved or at least ameliorated by a comprehensive fire emergency plan that covered wind and weather, emergency water usage, power distribution (including emergency power), ground foliage trimming, communication (including siren usage and cell phone coverage), and emergency evacuation. up through the present, i am not aware that such an emergency fire plan exists. it would not surprise me if such a plan was a rarity on other islands (outside of oahu perhaps).


56 posted on 08/23/2023 3:01:33 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: SteveH

How about if they had had pumps in the ocean and used that water instead to put the fires out?


57 posted on 08/23/2023 3:05:21 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: SteveH
the uphill lahaina fire did not restart until around 3:00 PM. At about 3:30 PM, the local emergency management sends out a shelter-in-place message. At 4:45PM, they close the bypass.

This is all correct, except the Lahaina fire started at 6:37 am, near Lahainaluna Road. Maui officials announced the fire was 100% contained at 9:55 am, but the Lahaina fire was never declared "extinguished." This is when the water supply problems reportedly occured. Multiple witnesses reported that the firefighters stood and watched as the Lahaina fire spread.

The fire that started at 6:37 am would end being the same fire that burned down the town.

Lahaina fire declared 100% contained; water conservation urged due to power outages
https://www.mauicounty.gov/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=12622

Maui fire: Witnesses say firefighters let Lahaina blaze spread
https://www.sfchronicle.com/climate/article/lahaina-fire-start-controversy-18300089.php
60 posted on 08/23/2023 3:19:29 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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