Posted on 08/20/2023 10:13:46 AM PDT by rellimpank
This undated photo provided by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, shows the FRT-15 made by Rare Breed Triggers, an after-market device for AR-15-style rifles that allows them to shoot seemingly as fast as fully automatic weapons. A lawsuit, being heard in federal court, in the Brooklyn borough of New York, includes numerous civil fraud counts against Rare Breed, alleging the company defrauded customers by telling them the triggers are legal and conspired to defraud the government by failing to get ATF approval before selling the devices, among other accusations. (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives via AP) © Provided by The Associated Press The internet videos are alarming to some, thrilling to others: Gun enthusiasts spraying bullets from AR-15-style rifles equipped with an after-market trigger allowing them to shoot seemingly as fast as fully automatic weapons
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Owwwwwwww! Do they “spray” bullets like a hose?
The ATF’s job is to stop illegal activity, but all I see is
the ATF trying to destroy legal gun rights at every turn.
They’ll close down as many gun stores as they can.
This is not their mandate. Creating an atmosphere where
normal gun owners have to be fearful of a government
agency, just because they believe in the Second Amendment,
is just morally wrong.
The ATF is hoisted on their own petard.
How? Because they defined for years “auto” as one pull of the trigger with continuous fire.
With binary triggers, you get one shot on the backward motion of the finger, and another on the release. Thus your finger moves for *every* shot.
Now they want to ban that as well, but 70 years of “findings” they have made say otherwise.
I don’t own a binary trigger because I believe high rate of fire is pretty useless. Accuracy is where it’s at.
Not a flame, just a gentle correction.
The expression is 'hoist with their own petard.'
In the day, a petard was a mine. The expression means that the bomb-maker is killed by his own mine.
They’re just a really fast Finger
If the ATF is hoist with their own petard, can they also arrest themselves because of the “E” that comes at the end of their name even if the petard phrase is metaphorical?
Inquiring minds...
That design on it looks very similar to a 2 piece device I once saw used on an AR15. That was many, many years ago. It simply stopped the sear from reengaging, allowing the hammer to cycle continuously until the trigger was actually released.
Not sure if it made any difference but the lower was milspec. Milled out, not like the semi only ones now. I recall it was an early Colt that didn't have a forward assist. I know early Air Force ARs were like that.
I meant it in it’s famous meaning (from Shakespeare)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoist_with_his_own_petard
This is where the unique phrase comes from -— essentially you are “lifted” or hoisted by the force of your own bomb...
This from the group that considers suppressors, firearms.
For OUR owj safety? Or for the government’s safety?
Didn’t the ATF blow up a building in Oklahoma City?
Specifically, a small breaching charge of gunpowder in a container, to be placed against a door, gate, or wall. The word "petard" originally comes from the French "pet", meaning fart.
Bingo it's also excessively expensive. 5 Seconds of joy for $40.00.
All weapons control laws are infringements of the 2nd Amendment.
Yet, not one Mammon serving lawyer has made that case.
I like learning stuff like that about language and idioms. The other one that gets me is, “chomping at the bit”; it’s actually, “champing at the bit.”
Hey…Trump saved lives with his bumpstock ban. How is this different. Common sense gun control from the elites.
Let’s see here...a bumpstock with the bottle opener should be velly intelestink!!
Don’t forget your “solvent filter.”
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