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Defiant Maui Emergency Leader, Who Has No Experience In Crisis Management, Says Activating The Island's Emergency Sirens Would Have Saved NO ONE -
The Daily Mail ^ | 08/17/23 | Sophie Mann

Posted on 08/17/2023 6:44:27 AM PDT by Enlightened1

The man in charge of Maui's Emergency Management Agency said Wednesday he does not regret not activating warning sirens as the fatal wildfire swept across the island.

Chief Herman Andaya said he opted to send out alerts via mobile devices, radio waves, television and the county's opt-in resident alert system - but not via siren.

Despite the claim the warning sirens could have saved hundreds of people who instead burned in the deadly fire, Andaya argued the sirens are generally used for tsunami warnings and Hawaiians are trained to seek higher ground when they go off, which in this case would have led them toward the blazing inferno.

There is growing fear that many children are among the dead - as they were left home alone when schools delayed opening due to power outages before the storm. 

Andaya defended his experience and qualification for office during a mid-week press conference held by Governor Josh Green. 

'Had we sounded the siren that night, we're afraid that people would have gotten mauka [toward the mountains] and if that was the case, then they would have gone into the fire,' he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: chief; emergencymanagement; fire; hawaii; hermanandaya; maui; sirens; warning
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1 posted on 08/17/2023 6:44:27 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1

While Hawaiians tend to vote Democratic, I think they still would have enough sense not to run into an inferno but into the ocean.


2 posted on 08/17/2023 6:48:07 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (Article II, Section 2: "The President...may require the opinion, in writing,...upon any subject...")
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To: Enlightened1

“Lāhainā — the original capital of the Hawaiian Kingdom”

https://www.gohawaii.com/islands/maui/regions/west-maui/Lahaina


3 posted on 08/17/2023 6:50:16 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (Article II, Section 2: "The President...may require the opinion, in writing,...upon any subject...")
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To: Enlightened1

sounds like the same guy in tower 2 telling people to stay where you are

https://rense.com/general14/afterd.htm

“People began to evacuate, but an announcement over the intercom said everything was all right, no need to evacuate.’ ‘At 10-story intervals, he had to walk through burning corridors. Bizarrely, no sprinklers or alarms had been activated.”


4 posted on 08/17/2023 6:51:44 AM PDT by stylin19a (Golf is a game invented by the same people who think music comes out of a bagpipe. -- Lee Trevino)
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To: Enlightened1

Defies common sense.


5 posted on 08/17/2023 6:52:27 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: Brian Griffin

———”This is not a drill”.-——

When they set off the Emergency Alert system a few years back it worked very well, only a couple died from heart attacks, and millions of women and children were saved!


6 posted on 08/17/2023 6:52:46 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: Enlightened1

Try them for manslaughter. I think they are lying. The fact that this comes out days later in the face of a tsunami of criticism rather than right after the fire was out tells me that they met and kludged together this lame but plausible excuse after the fact. Even the village idiot could tell you that lausible is not truth.


7 posted on 08/17/2023 6:53:07 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: Enlightened1

photos

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/gallery/2023/08/15/photos-aerial-shots-maui-wildfires-impact/


8 posted on 08/17/2023 6:54:14 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (Article II, Section 2: "The President...may require the opinion, in writing,...upon any subject...")
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To: Enlightened1

Despite the claim the warning sirens could have saved hundreds of people who instead burned in the deadly fire, Andaya argued the sirens are generally used for tsunami warnings and Hawaiians are trained to seek higher ground when they go off, which in this case would have led them toward the blazing inferno.

Yeah, Hawaiians are so stupid that they would run into a blazing inferno when they hear a warning siren.

Or, the siren would have alerted people that there was a problem (I don’t keep my phone with me and so an alert to my phone would not do any good, but if I heard a siren I would investigate).

My guess is the manger is a political appointee that was rewarded with high pay low requirement government job.


9 posted on 08/17/2023 6:55:10 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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To: Enlightened1

Maui will become Klaus Schwab and his World Enslavement Forum’s first look at Real Hell


10 posted on 08/17/2023 6:56:04 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: DUMBGRUNT

My first thought as well. The false alarm for an inbound ICBM worked great.


11 posted on 08/17/2023 7:00:43 AM PDT by Rural_Michigan
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To: Enlightened1

into the fire....they weren’t blind....just looking for a way out....they needed leadership. They should have had trucks with sirens leading the way....just awful...no one should have died,


12 posted on 08/17/2023 7:04:30 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Brian Griffin

Sept.8, 2020, the Alameda fire, So. Oregon.
The fire started about 7 am in Ashland. News said all day and through the night of the fire, “ there was a one structure fire on Alameda drive, fully contained”.

They had hours to warn us or at least announce on news that two towns were burning!

The emergency manager of the county made the decision to not warn us because “ it might confuse us”.. because it was mostly senior CITIZENS in manufactured homes. When the flames were in our driveway, there was no confusion..we had no choice but to run for our lives. I got the cat and my purse.
That county manager still has her job. They should be sued! But I seem to be the only one that is bothered by their incompetence.


13 posted on 08/17/2023 7:10:38 AM PDT by AuntB (Trump is our Ben Franklin - Brilliant, Boisterous, Brave and ALL AMERICAN!)
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To: Enlightened1

Yes, of course, they would have run into the fire, instead of checking all the other information sources.

Happens all the time - the great lemming reaction that people have when they see smoke and fire, to run into it.

Sheesh.


14 posted on 08/17/2023 7:11:44 AM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: Rural_Michigan
The false alarm for an inbound ICBM worked great.

Where did everybody run to during that? The mountains or the water? You live on an island, why bother with alarms for an inbound ICBM? You can't run from that on an island, you're just going to die tired.

15 posted on 08/17/2023 7:12:43 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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To: Enlightened1

Maybe they could train residents to check their phones when emergency alerts are needed.

Moronic excuse. They could probably smell the fire once they were outside.


16 posted on 08/17/2023 7:14:50 AM PDT by skr (Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people. - Proverbs 14:34)
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To: Enlightened1

I hear the sirens. I go outside to go to the mountains. I see the mountains are on fire. I run away from the fire.


17 posted on 08/17/2023 7:16:53 AM PDT by Savage Rider
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To: Enlightened1
Andaya argued the sirens are generally used for tsunami warnings and Hawaiians are trained to seek higher ground when they go off, which in this case would have led them toward the blazing inferno.

Typical idiot Dem blaming others.

18 posted on 08/17/2023 7:18:46 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Enlightened1

The sirens are on the coast, no one “uphill” would have heard them. Those nearer the coast where the sirens would have been heard have been TRAINED for Tsunamis...not wildfires. The sirens for those who could have heard them would have told the people to head for higher ground (into the fire) or up into buildings, where they would have been incinerated. They need warning sirens for the whole area, and a different SOUND for Tsunamis and Wildfires ... (Same Sirens, different sounds). The press needs a scapegoat, and they are focusing on this man. The sirens not going off was NOT the problem, and the man’s decision NOT to sound the sirens probably saved lives. Tough decision, he’s a hero and only someone familiar with the (Faulty!) system would have understood what to do, which he did.


19 posted on 08/17/2023 7:19:01 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (Accepting a false premise confirms defeat. Transgender? (No such thing, next subject))
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I agree, the sirens would of confused people and possibly led to more deaths. This fire was a one in a million event: the fire, the unkempt dry vegetation, and winds caused by the hurricane passing nearby created an inferno that moved quicker than anyone could predict. The only thing that can be done is to learn from this: have plans to maintain vegetation to lessen the chance of wildfires, develop a warning system that can be used for different types of events.


20 posted on 08/17/2023 8:36:07 AM PDT by aklurker
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