Posted on 08/07/2023 7:09:54 AM PDT by SJackson
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Better to wait for a future President. And an actual Palestinian leader. "Area A" will collapse with Abbas' death, or with an actual election.
Saudi Arabia already gets from the U.S. what it mainly wants from us: Brandon’s regulations making it harder to drill for oil here resulting in us buying more oil from the house of Saud.
It would make Iran’s mullahs go nuts............
It happened at the very beginning of the modern story, around the time portrayed in “Lawrence of Arabia”. Search for “Harry St. John Philby advocated for Jewish Immigration into Palestine”, you come up with various articles about the fact that Ibn Saud favored it. https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/ADA111290.pdf
Ibn Saud was portrayed in Lawrence of Arabia. It was the main strategic point, that upon the dissolution of the ancient Ottoman Empire, the power vacuum led to concerns about the then-obscure Saudis.
Harry St. John Philby was, in effect, Ibn Saud’s foreign minister. He converted to Islam, had multiple wives, bought a young girl at a slave market in Istanbul. He was the father of the Third Man, Kim Philby.
The question will always be how real it is. Something tells me Egypt will never turn back. The Camp David meetings in the 70’s was bigger than Begin and Sadat. History demanded it.
At this point the Saudis have their toes in the water. What could blow it is a US administration not paying attention due to distractions.
None of this matters. Israel’s Jewish population is reducing and the Palestine population is growing, and no amount of ultra-orthodox families can stop that. Israel won’t be formally dissolved or have a major civil war, it will just be a slow transformation into another muslim-majority state, like nearby Jordan. Eventually the last Jews in Israel will see the writing on the wall and move to other countries.
It’s gonna be like the Watts neighborhood in LA, where decades ago it was almost 100% black and suddenly you realize one day now it’s 80% hispanic.
What could blow it is a US administration trying to make a few bucks off it.....................
Diddley squat.
The Saudis should be paying Israel in order to be allowed to join the Abraham Accords.
Thanks SJackson.
Politically, there's probably no way the KSA will ever join the Abraham Accords. Their China-brokered move to resume ties with Iran, and their support for reintegrating Syria into the Arab League and whatnot, is analogous to putting a house on the market with a much higher asking price than anyone is likely to offer.
The disintegration of Pakistan, the Taliban's using the abandoned US equipment to confront Iran, and the economic/financial and political ennui gripping most of Asia must also be of concern to India. Turkey's currently stuck regionally. Egypt's building a new capital city, a large irrigation project in the western desert, and back-burnered by the concern trolls/virtue signalers in the Biden regime, and not worried about much else.
Saudi Arabia's in a better position right now than it has been since engineering the OPEC embargo in 1973.
“None of this matters. Israel’s Jewish population is reducing and the Palestine population is growing”
That is not correct. The TFR of Jewish residents of Israel is 2.00 and 1.99 for Arabs, at least in 2020.
Now, while both populations are growing, historically (until recently), you are (kind of) correct that Arab populations are growing at a slightly higher rate, but this is largely due to Bedouin birthrate, which is not exactly the same thing as “Palestinian”.
And “Arab” does not necessarily mean “Muslim.” the Arab population includes Nazarines and Druze, both of which are generally OK.
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/latest-population-statistics-for-israel
[snip] As of 2021, 28% of the population was aged 0-14, while only 12% were older than 65. The OECD average is 18.5% (0-14) and 15% (65+). Israel’s average age, however, is getting older. In 2011, the average age was 29.5 years as opposed to 27.6 in 2000. Men’s average age worldwide is 28.4, and women’s is 30.6 years old.
Life expectancy for Israelis is 83 years, 80.5 years for men, and 84.6 years for women. In 2017, life expectancy for Arab women was 79.5 years and 77.4 for men.
The World Health Organization issued a report in May 2016 that concluded humans were, on average, living five years longer than they were in 2000. Israel was ranked as the country with the 8th highest life expectancy globally, better than the United States, Canada, France, Russia, and other highly developed nations. Life expectancy in 2020 was 83.5 years for all Israelis, 84.9 for women, and 82 for men...
Israel’s population density in 2017 was reported as 373.2 people per km2. By comparison, Slovenia (whose territory is roughly the same size as Israel’s) has a population density of 102 people per km2; Belgium (slightly larger than Israel) has a density of 364 people per km2...
Israel’s male-to-female population ratio is 982:1,000...
The average age for an Israeli woman to be married in 2016 was 26.1 years old, and the average age for an Israeli woman to have her first child was 28.3. Teen births are uncommon in Israel, with births to women aged 19 and under accounting for 0.5% of national births during 2016.
The fertility of Israeli Jewish women in 2018 exceeded that of Arab women for the first time. The rate among Jewish women living in Israel and in settlements in the West Bank was 3.05 compared to 3.04 for Israeli Arab women. The overall fertility rate in Israel in 2020 was 3.01 children per woman. The average fertility rate for 2017 for all developed countries of the OECD was 1.65. [/snip]
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jewish-nobel-prize-laureates
[snip] Israel has produced a disproportionate number of Nobel Prize winners. In August 2015, Times Higher Education ranked Israel the fifth best performer this century based on the number of Nobel Prizes won as well as the significance and prestige of each one. [/snip]
Restoring the ancient Halakhic State would change the world.
They would want Israel to take down the walls. Where have a I seen that idea before?
bkmk
(They would want Israel to take down the walls.)
Straight out of Ezekiel 38.
By the time the 🌍🌎 world figures out where the Abraham Accords are going, it will be too late.
Very few will understand until it starts.
Luke 21:34-36
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Good homepage, I would recommend a book for you. “It was a Riddle not a Command” by Joseph Dumond. You will either “see” the information inside or reject it. To me, it was eye opening. I would think you should get it quickly though. Time really is short.
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I think you’re correct.
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Your hate for Israel is clear, thanks.
Your user name is apt.
Pointing out facts is not hate, you leftist clown
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