Posted on 08/05/2023 5:59:57 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
NBC is reporting — with a supposed sense of shock — the results of a Monmouth poll that nearly one-third of Americans think the 2020 presidential election was rigged.
And they further reiterate that there is no evidence for fraud.
There's no evidence widespread fraud affected the outcome of the 2020 election, but Trump and allies have spent years undercutting the election's legitimacy.
Wow! It must be so. The main stream media assure us that the election was honest. Yet one third of Americans still believe the election was a fraud.
I am shocked, shocked.
Anyone who questions the election result is called a fascist or subjected to a lawsuit or prosecution. So for the moment, we will not question the integrity of write-in ballots, nor the security of voting machines — to avoid pernicious litigation.
Let us just look at the official results...from the official federal government figures.
In 2016, Donald Trump got 62,984,828 votes, while in 2020, he got 74,223,975 votes — an increase of 11,239,147.
In 2016, the Democrats got 65,853,514 votes, while in 2020, the Democrats got 81,283,501 votes — an increase of 15,429, 987.
Wikipedia's figures are taken from the Federal Elections Commission reports (2016, page 10 and 2020, page 10).
Altogether, 26,669,134 more votes were cast in 2020 than in 2016. Approximate 20.6% more votes were cast than were cast four years earlier.
Where did these votes come from?
From the figures at macrotrends, from 2016 to 2020, the population of the United States increased by 8,731,805 — roughly one third the increase of voters from 2016.
So we are asked to believe that the voting base increased at three times the rate of the population. And no one is to question this? And NBC cannot figure out why so many people are so suspicious?
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
1/3rd thinks it was stolen
1/3rd thinks it was stolen but their side won so they don’t care
1/3rd isn’t paying attention
Wow, that’s pretty much verbatim what I was goint to respond. My last third were going to have IQs under 70.
Those 51 elections occur at the direction of, and are subservient to, 50 legislatures and Congress. The States unwisely granted Congress 3 Electors by ratifying the XXIII Amendment in 1960, so Congress does have supervisory power OVER THOSE THREE, but not otherwise.
There is only one Presidential election in the Constitution, it takes place in December, there are 538 voters, and in December 2020 Biden got 306 of them and was elected President.
No State Legislature objected that its Electors were not the ones they had appointed. No State Legislature even convened to consider the matter. In the case of Pennsylvania, the Legislature fled to avoid considering the matter.
It has never been alleged that a single one of the 306 votes for Biden/Harris was a forgery, that the Electors who casted them were impersonating someone else, or that the Legislatures had secretly appointed other Electors.
There is zero space for an allegation of fraud in the Constitutional Presidential election of December 14, 2020.
As far as the 51 elections which occurred on November 3, 2020, they may very well have been rife with fraud, but since the appointment power of the 50 State Legislatures (535) and Congress (3) is plenary, that’s a problem for those legislatures to deal with should they choose to do so.
Thank you.
Of course the electoral college is the thing that really matters, and an analysis of that would be more than I would want to take on.
However, I did run some quick numbers for elections between 1980 and 2020.
My numbers below are a bit of a rehash of the original article, but I did cover Ronald Reagan through to Joe Biden. Forty years of numbers comparing vote counts and population increase.
If the number of votes counted for both Democrats and Republicans in a particular year are compared with the previous election, you get some interesting numbers.
In 2016, the total votes was 128,838,342.
In 2020, the total votes was 155,507,476.
That an increase of 26,669,134.
The voting age population increase was just 8,183,000.
26,669,134 / 8,183,000 = 3.259090065
If you run similar numbers for elections over the past 40 years, the increase in votes cast divided by the voting age population is basically “1”. Sometimes it’s a little less than 1 (0.806176386 in 2008) and sometimes it’s a little more than 1 (1.258499005 in 1984).
2004 is a bit of an anomaly with the number being 2.008309953. No other year has a number that high. Until 2020 and the number is 3.259090065. And in that election, the candidate who campaigned from his basement got the highest count in US history.
That’s weird.
At least a third of Americans believe our elections are compromised. If they weren’t, the powers that be could assure the public with a full audit. They won’t and shut down anyone who raises a question… and that’s how you know they are.
The CARES act, that Trump signed, flooded the country with untraceable mail-in ballots and then Trump stupidly told his voters not to use them, but to vote in person instead.
And remember when Rep. Thomas Massie said this was a bad idea? This was Trump's reply:
“There’s no evidence widespread fraud affected the outcome of the 2020 election”
1. So now they’re admitting that there was some fraud. Sounds like we’ll be hearing more in that regard.
2. Since there were no investigations, they are technically correct in saying that there was no evidence that widespread fraud affected the 2020 election, but likewise there’s also no evidence that the fraud, now admitted to, DID NOT affect the outcome of the election.
if the election was so honest and secure, why did the courts and dems right tooth and nail to stop any organized, systematic investigation? You would think that they would have actually offered to allow such an investigation to take place to reassure people that there wasn’t any massive fraud. But, they have no criminalized doubting the election.
The simplest way for me to explain my take is to ask “does anyone really believe that Joe Biden got 5 million more votes than Barak Obama”?
Has anyone seen this interview from this week with Jan Halper-Hayes? Listen to what she says especially at 2 minutes and at 5 minutes about the military having the real election results. She seems certain that Trump won. Would like to hear people’s thoughts.
Sorry, I forgot the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=l0WacP1CrWY&fbclid=IwAR31feOV9zkuN_IQnwOrBEw1vV7fobcqBRYXdwSKjYCsjtF7C4_zEtgvAnY
All those words blown away in one short comment.
Biden even said he had the biggest voter fraud operation ever created.
Weasel words again from the media.That statement on its face is true. It was not widespread fraud the affected the outcome. It was the specific limited fraud targeted in specific counties in the swing states.
I have now.
Would like to hear people’s thoughts.
Thanks for the link. Nice video.
Singing to the choir, but the host reactions were priceless.
650 planes removing our gold from the Vatican was news to me.
It was the specific targeted fraud limited in specific counties in the swing states.
JMO, YMMV
I like the term “surgically targeted fraud.”
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