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DeSantis says election fraud theories promoted by Trump ‘did not prove to be true’
NBC News ^ | 8/4/2023 | Allan Smith, Alec Hernández and Henry J. Gomez

Posted on 08/04/2023 1:11:22 PM PDT by aperez77

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To: Fuzz
Maricopa county is run by Republicans. Good grief.

Corrupt "Republicans." Cyber Ninja's proved that. And then the 2022 election? Absolute corruption.

That woman testified to the Arizona Senate that every important office holder in Arizona had been co-opted by the Sinola drug cartel.

That becomes increasingly believable with each passing year.

161 posted on 08/04/2023 9:30:44 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: aperez77
The burden of proof is on the asserter, not the disputer.

Says who? Is this like the guy who says you can't talk about Nazis or you lose the debate? You know, the guy that advocates a lot of ideas that the Nazis liked?

The information was posted all over Free Republic at the time. If you missed it, that's freaking amazing.

162 posted on 08/04/2023 9:33:23 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: central_va

when the war starts, scores will be settled.

So, you ARE an insurrectionist.

Unlike 4F Trump and his two adult sons, I served in the military. My oath to defend this country against all enemies foreign and domestic is still good.


163 posted on 08/04/2023 10:37:50 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: central_va

I’ve taught college level math classes.


164 posted on 08/04/2023 10:38:21 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: central_va

Hopefully, Donald Trump isn’t as idiotic as you, or else he will go to jail.

The Republican House managers got him off twice. The first time, on a false charge pertaining to a phone call to Zelensky. The second time, on instigating a riot (falsely characterized as an insurrection). The second time, the Republican House managers DID NOT argue that Trump won. They argued that Trump used language that politicians routinely use, such as we should fight for our principles; and, they argued that Trump called on his followers to cooperate with law enforcement.

Now Trump and some of his lawyers are arguing that he won the election. They say they will use his J6 trial to re-litigate the election. I’m not a lawyer, so the following is not legal advice. But, this defense will land him in jail. I halfway don’t believe what I am hearing and halfway think Trump will follow the line of defense of his House managers in his impeachment trial.

As you know, the J6 case is one of three (and others may come). A second case concerns tax filings related to Trump’s hush money payments to one of his paramours. Trump’s defense, as best as I can tell, is that the statue of limitations had expired.

A third case involves Trump retaining documents belonging to the U.S. government. Trump’s defense is that he declassified the documents by the very act of taking them. Regardless, the documents are still the property of the United States.

Trump’s company has admitted to tax fraud, and his Treasurer - Allen Weisselberg - is serving a five-month prison term.

Trump has lost a $5 million civil case for defamation to E. Jean Carroll. He says he will appeal this case.


165 posted on 08/04/2023 10:59:44 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: FreeReign; Pelham; nopardons

Good posting !

Well done on your thread

Thank u


166 posted on 08/04/2023 11:40:13 PM PDT by wardaddy (Why so many nevertrumpers with early sign ups and no posting history till now? Zot them PTB)
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To: Redmen4ever

You are real poisonous piece of work. Nice how you spin your defamation and lies with the skill of the very best Bushie Karl Rove RINO!


167 posted on 08/04/2023 11:59:55 PM PDT by antceecee
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To: antceecee

I suppose you don’t like the House managers that defended Trump at his second impeachment, and got him acquitted. Better to go down fighting.

The Charge of the Light Brigade was a waste of cavalry. But, what a great poem!

No, you don’t order men to make frontal attacks on prepared positions. Same thing at Fort Wagner, and Fredericksburg and Pickett’s Charge.


168 posted on 08/05/2023 12:07:23 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: Redmen4ever

Second impeachment was a Pelosi-Schumer farce! Apparently you approve of these unconstitutional tactics by the uniparty! You sir are the problem and your analysis is a lie.


169 posted on 08/05/2023 12:12:48 AM PDT by antceecee
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To: Olog-hai

Trump does not have a commanding lead in the polls. At best it’s a 50-50 proposition against a decrepit old man and Biden.

He drives people away in spite of everything that we like about him. I understand that many people are behind Trump because he’s being persecuted by the legal system, but I just wish had a little more nuance and a little more professionalism..Not because I need to hear from him but because people who may be influenced by him, just turn him off because he’s got such a huge mouth . He’s just got to be more tactful.


170 posted on 08/05/2023 2:43:00 AM PDT by Mustangman
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To: aperez77

He’s done, finished, kaput, Deep State Dork, Jeb! material, flame away but that’s the truth, and with good reason.


171 posted on 08/05/2023 6:32:34 AM PDT by Shady (The Force of Liberty must prevail for the sake of our Children and Grandchildren...)
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To: Mustangman

If I wanted more of that species of rhetoric, I’d read the websites that generate it, with all due respect.


172 posted on 08/05/2023 6:41:24 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Redmen4ever
I’ve taught college level math classes.

Not believable. DO YOU ACTUALLY THINK BIDEN GOT 81 MILLION LEGITIMATE VOTES????

173 posted on 08/05/2023 7:22:11 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Redmen4ever
My oath to defend this country against all enemies foreign and domestic is still good.

Bring it be-atch.

174 posted on 08/05/2023 7:23:10 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

wait, here it comes ... you must have graduated with 4Fs from Trump University


175 posted on 08/05/2023 7:54:14 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: poconopundit

Politicians are self-serving opportunists. They are like chameleons (lizards actually) who continually shift their colors as a defense mechanism. They take on whatever color fits their purpose at the moment.

That’s why people like Trump. Unlike your typical sleazy politician he’s not evasive and for the most part consistent and genuine. In fact, that’s why most politicians in both parties hate him — he highlights their shifty hypocrisy and makes them look bad.


176 posted on 08/06/2023 7:27:59 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Olog-hai

I’m not talking about us. I’m talking about people who would be open to him if he just calmed down a bit. This is why DeSantis has an appeal… he’s more surgical. Trump uses a chain saw DeSantis uses a knife. Again.. I’m voting GOP regardless, but no getting around the fact that Trumps personality drives out his message.


177 posted on 08/06/2023 7:47:32 AM PDT by Mustangman
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To: Mustangman

2016 talking points repeated, and implicit election fraud denial.

Have a nice day.


178 posted on 08/06/2023 10:12:37 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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