Posted on 08/04/2023 8:20:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
History provides examples of third-party presidential candidates swinging elections. Ross Perot denied George H.W. Bush a second term in 1992, running on the Reform Party ticket and garnering 18.9% of the popular vote. Bill Clinton won with only 43.0%. In 1980, Congressman John Anderson ran an incoherent candidacy yet captured 6.6% of votes. Reagan prevailed over Carter 50.7% to 41.0%. It is unclear if Anderson’s bid was engineered by Reagan’s campaign to split votes from Carter. Teddy Roosevelt's 1912 third-party run split Republican votes, yielding Woodrow Wilson, the first progressive leftist president.
Now comes RFK Jr. with a platform exhibiting substantial overlap with the MAGA agenda. Kennedy's recent interview with James O'Keefe reveals his targeting of MAGA voters, especially younger ones unfamiliar with his family’s dark history.
44:30: I think because of my ability to attract Independents and many, many Republicans that I actually have probably a better chance of winning the election than any other Democratic candidate.
Trump’s Achilles heel was allowing himself to be bamboozled into supporting the COVID narrative of the pharmaceutical-medical-globalist complex. Because of his congenital reluctance to issue a mea culpa and admit that he was conned, Kennedy could potentially appeal to this large segment of the electorate. Perhaps Trump is banking a mea culpa for an October 2024 surprise.
For solid realpolitik reasons Trump avoids attacking Kennedy and is modestly complimentary. Many assume a Kennedy independent run would pull more Democrat than MAGA votes. This could be a fatal error. Certain things are appealing about Kennedy and his late uncle and father. But to believe the Kennedy clan are saints is absurd.
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Absurd. Kennedy would hurt Dems more than the Repulicans. Kennedy has more skeletons in his closet then Uncle Teddy had.
NeverTrumper wishful thinking. RFK is right on one issue.
Yes, RFK Jr. would pull some MAGA votes. But he would pull A LOT of Dem & traditional leftist votes.
The real loser of a Trump-RFK-Biden race would be Biden.
I doubt Biden would get even 20%
Who?
RE: Kennedy has more skeletons in his closet then Uncle Teddy had.
Are you referring to RFK Jr? If so, please share a few of these “skeletons” with us.
sounds about right.
RFK, Jr: ‘We have so much to learn from Cuba’: https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3243628/posts
Andrea Mitchell Applauds RFK Jr.’s ‘Impassioned Plea’ for Obama to Stop Keystone Pipeline by Fiat: https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3120692/posts
RFK Jr. Slams “Right-Wing Control of American Media”: https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2967445/posts
RFK Jr: Right-Wing Controls American Media, Fox News Has Divided US to a Point not Seen Since Civil War: https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2967311/posts
Robert Kennedy, Jr.’s ‘Green’ Company Scored $1.4 Billion Taxpayer Bailout: https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2808401/posts
Robert Kennedy Jr.: right-wing hosts spread hate: https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2271218/posts
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.: ‘There Is No Liberal Media’: https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2021728/posts
RFK Jr: You know, my uncle was also shot amid a climate of right-wing hate: https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-
RE: I doubt Biden would get even 20%
This is the same Biden who got reportedly 81 million votes ( a record ) without being able to draw even a few hundred people with Bon Jovi singing at his rally and spent most of his time in the basement.
RFK Jr has already said he is not going to run as a 3rd party candidate.
bray wrote: “NeverTrumper wishful thinking. RFK is right on one issue.”
Would that one issue be the vaccines?
I hate bush league chamber of commerce worshipping republiCAN’Ts.
Deep staters need to go at all costs.
Having said that...
Trump/RFK?
Same ticket??????
I’ll consider voting for RFK if Trump isn’t nominated by the Repubs. At least he’s not a deep stater like the rest of the Republican field is.
Have you read RFK Jr.’s personal policies? See Post #8 above. How about voting for say, DeSantis or Vivek Ramaswamy if ( God forbid ), Trump isn’t the Republican nominee?
deep state is a domestic enemy and we need someone in there that will address the problem.
Will never vote for Ramaswamy since he isn’t Christian.
DeSantis or RFK would be a tough call. DeSantis is good on most issues, but he’s bought and paid for.
Just give $10 to Cornel West. That will throw the real monkey wrench into the process.
Cornel West is black. Do you think black voters care about the Green Party’s environmental positions that put blacks out of work? How many blacks feel welcome enough to go out to the wide-open spaces the at-one-with-the-earth types love so much where they can sing Kumbaya around the campfire?
Lefties are racists. They won’t be able to get behind West so we need to be the excrement disturbers-let blacks know just where they’re not welcome. There will be a lot of it in ‘24 so we might as well steer it in the right direction rather than react.
“Teddy Roosevelt’s 1912 third-party run split Republican votes, yielding Woodrow Wilson, the first progressive leftist president.”
“Leftist” wasn’t used in 1912, but “progressive” was...and it was a term regularly applied to Theodore Roosevelt. In fact the reason he ran in 1912 was because he felt that his fellow Republican successor William Taft had watered down his progressive initiatives.
The confusion in popular thought stems from Glenn Beck constantly misstating this chapter in American presidential history: It was Teddy Roosevelt, not Woodrow Wilson, who was the first progressive in the White House.
RE: Will never vote for Ramaswamy since he isn’t Christian.
Would voting for pro-choice “Christian” be any better than a constitution abiding,non-practicing, Hindu if it came down to that choice?
Malcom X had something to say about white liberals. Reminds me of Cornel. So why aren’t we fanning the flames?
RE: DeSantis is good on most issues, but he’s bought and paid for.
By who and what evidence do we have for that?
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