Posted on 08/03/2023 4:18:27 AM PDT by C19fan
The first several weeks of Ukraine’s long-awaited counteroffensive have not been kind to the Ukrainian troops who were trained and armed by the United States and its allies.
Equipped with advanced American weapons and heralded as the vanguard of a major assault, the troops became bogged down in dense Russian minefields under constant fire from artillery and helicopter gunships. Units got lost. One unit delayed a nighttime attack until dawn, losing its advantage. Another fared so badly that commanders yanked it off the battlefield altogether.
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Love the choice words
The first several weeks of Ukraine’s long-awaited counteroffensive have not been kind (IOW, they got their asses kicked) to the Ukrainian troops ...
.. the troops became bogged down in dense Russian minefields under constant fire from artillery and helicopter gunships.
IOW, Russian Generals are far superior to NATO commanders
Units got lost.
Good men died, not enough left to ID the soldier and bury him
One unit ... advantage. Another fared so badly (IOW good men died in large numbers, those still alive are missing arms and/or legs) that commanders yanked it off the battlefield altogether.
Note to the easily offended, this was not meant to be funny. This was gallows humor, which is meant to be a commentary on how ridiculous things have become.
No battle plan survives first contact with the enemy.
Guess training them to use the proper pronouns have been shown to be very effective on the battlefield
You can’t just grab some guys off the street, give them a few weeks of training and expect them to fight like veteran troops. It takes time to build an effective army.
What was NATO thinking? Nuland hates both sides, and when they are killing each other people like her cheer.
The Russians are using WWI technology, mines and artillery, to humble NATO. The NATO rainbow warrior leadership never considered the possibility.
Additionally, Western arms are inferior to Russian armor. The Ukrainian military MUST be blamed because to do otherwise would affect the corporate bottom line in the global arms market.
The level of SHEER ARROGANCE that Leftists have shown throughout my lifetime is now giving us the bloodbath of Ukrainians as the Leftists (Ukraine War supporters) were CONVINCED that our Western ‘wonder-weapons’ could simply cut through Russian defenses like a knife through butter...as this article from 2 months ago shows:
Not that the Leftists will ever learn, but they’re no longer beating up weak, Third World countries, they’re now messing with a military Superpower.
IDIOTS.
Ukraine can’t win. It is criminal to prolong this war. The US has the leverage to force Ukraine to the negotiation table.
This is similar to a trainer watching his boxer taking an horrendous beating and being pummeled all over the ring. If you care about the long term welfare of the fighter, it is time to throw in the towel. Ukraine has too much courage for its own good or their leaders are so corrupt that they prefer the war money over their own people.
Exactly. Ukraine’s frontline military was decimated during the early months of the war. They now depend on conscripts who lack the training and cohesion to fight on a modern battlefield of combined arms. Ukraine has a mishmash of weapons from various sources. This complicates significantly the logistics and maintenance requirements. And logistics wins wars.
Can’t be.
I read the opposite on FR & the NY Post.
/s
Its not just Ukrainian troops who are stumbling, thousands of foreign mercenaries have been killed or fled the battlefield as well.
A deliberate minefield breach is just about the hardest mission a maneuver unit can get. American units usually train for it at one of the Maneuver Training Centers, it requires complex planning, coordination and expends an enormous amount of resources (men and material). Not for the faint of heart, it is a mission most competent commanders really try to avoid if possible.
When feelings meet Clausewitz.
Notice that they don’t say that these green trainers were added into experienced Ukrainian units.
Apparently most of the experienced Ukrainian solders have been killed or disabled. They were sending completely inexperienced, probably drafted, troops against well-prepared positions. The same thing would have happened to US draftees with the same training and experience.
Trainees, not trainers.
...they’re now messing with a military Superpower Ex Superpower.
Now, fixed that.
Any fool could see where this was heading.
So much for the inclusive-woke way of fighting!
Was gonna say something along that line too “ya mean training in which dress and high heels for men to wear into battle, and how to get all offended by wrong pronouns didn’t help the ukies?”
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