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Weekend Listening: Are We Living Through ‘End Times’?
The Free Press ^ | 7/28/23 | Bari Weiss

Posted on 07/29/2023 7:05:38 AM PDT by CFW

Historian Peter Turchin predicted the turbulence of 2020. He tells me why, in 2024, America will reach a ‘break point.’

Peter Turchin is not like most historians. For starters, he has an unusual background as an evolutionary biologist studying lemmings and mice. He says that analyzing the complexities of the natural world has allowed him to understand the most complex system of all: human society. He has pioneered a field of history that he calls cliodynamics that applies hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, of historical data points to a mathematical model in order to understand the present and to predict future trends.

Using these tools, Peter and his team published an article in the journal Nature in 2010 that made a bold prediction. They said that economic, social, and political instability in the United States would hit a “peak” in or around the year 2020. Many of Turchin’s critics said he was crazy to make such a speculation, that it’s too hard to predict how history will progress, that the study of history is more art than science.

Then came 2020.

(Excerpt) Read more at thefp.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: america; endtimes; instability; turmoil
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This is audio and a transcript of an interview by Bari Weiss with historian Peter Turchin. It's a very interesting read.
1 posted on 07/29/2023 7:05:38 AM PDT by CFW
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To: CFW

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2 posted on 07/29/2023 7:08:20 AM PDT by sauropod (Sun Tzu: “The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting”)
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To: CFW

Na , we just have waaaay too many snake oil salesman out there


3 posted on 07/29/2023 7:12:44 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: CFW

He may be right but his explanation of the “musical chairs” analogy did not ring true to me.


4 posted on 07/29/2023 7:15:05 AM PDT by rod5591
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To: CFW

People in the Middle Ages who lived during the Black Death thought they were in the end times.

The entire world at war in 1914 had people believe they were living in the end times.

The entire world at war again in 1941 thought they were living in the end times.

People who lived during the Cuban missile crisis thought they were living in the end times.

People in 2020 when COVID was going to wipe out one in four thought they were living in the end times.

Yes, we may be living though the end times, but I’m skeptical.


5 posted on 07/29/2023 7:27:00 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: Yo-Yo

The future’s uncertain and the end is always near.


6 posted on 07/29/2023 7:27:29 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: CFW

Pretty much every generation thinks they’re in the end times. So far they’re all wrong. Play the odds. Tomorrow is probably coming.


7 posted on 07/29/2023 7:28:56 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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One thing we DO know—the end is now closer than it has ever been!


8 posted on 07/29/2023 7:34:09 AM PDT by systemjim (Lifetime Lover of Music)
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To: CFW

history = competition between modes of thought. Right now it is misintegration (statism) trying to gain control


9 posted on 07/29/2023 7:35:26 AM PDT by mjp (pro-freedom & pro-wealth $)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

End Times ping list?


10 posted on 07/29/2023 7:36:18 AM PDT by ro_dreaming (Who knew "Idiocracy", "1984", "Enemy of the State", and "Person of Interest" would be non-fiction?)
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To: dfwgator
The future’s uncertain and the end is always near.

Only if you woke up this mornin' and got yourself a beer

GREAT song!!!

11 posted on 07/29/2023 7:37:35 AM PDT by newfreep ("There is no race problem...just a problem race")
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Are we living through ‘End Times’?

Gosh, I hope so.

12 posted on 07/29/2023 7:40:40 AM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: butlerweave

Got that right.


13 posted on 07/29/2023 7:41:07 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: systemjim

Obviously. People in 1500 could say the same.


14 posted on 07/29/2023 7:41:59 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: systemjim

And you’re still likely to die before it happens. And your children. And your grandchildren. Play the odds, don’t sweat it.


15 posted on 07/29/2023 8:25:18 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: CFW

Everyone is always living in their own “end times”.

I say this as a committed Christian believer who is convinced that scripture teaches a “catching up”of the Church, the living and the dead, followed by a period marked by The Enemy in control of events on Earth, punctuated by Divine judgment, followed by... well, those who know that I’m talking about don’t need to hear the rest....

...My personal “end times” are mostly due to age, health, and the Will of God who takes those He will take when He wishes to take them, according to His perfect plan. I could end tomorrow, or in thirty years, or in the next 4 seconds. My part is to be ready to answer the call when it comes.


16 posted on 07/29/2023 8:26:17 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (For dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.)
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To: CFW

Ain’t none of us gettin outta here alive!


17 posted on 07/29/2023 8:44:19 AM PDT by G Larry (It is RACIST to impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants by importing Cheap ILLEGAL Labor!)
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To: CFW

https://patburt.com/


18 posted on 07/29/2023 9:09:07 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose GOD is the LORD. (Psalm 33:12))
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To: dfwgator

We’ve been living in the end times for the past two millennia.


19 posted on 07/29/2023 9:28:36 AM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: noiseman

I hope the rapture occurs in my lifetime, but if not, oh well.


20 posted on 07/29/2023 9:34:29 AM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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