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Here's Why Joe Biden Can't Pardon His Son
Townhall ^ | 07/27/2023 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 07/27/2023 8:13:11 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Mark my words. They are going to jail Trump. Hunter will get nothing. And SBF will get a slap on the wrist.

That’s your America baby! Count on it!


21 posted on 07/27/2023 10:06:55 PM PDT by NotWokeOrCommie
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To: SeekAndFind

Riiigt... and Obama was ineligible to be president.


22 posted on 07/27/2023 10:09:23 PM PDT by Obadiah
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To: SeekAndFind

After Biden leaves the white house. Trump should use the civil forfeiture laws to take everything that president bidens extended family has and then have them prove it was not pay offs


23 posted on 07/27/2023 10:16:34 PM PDT by PCPOET7 (`)
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To: Responsibility2nd
IF (big IF) a case does proceed against Hunter, it will be fixed so that he gets off.

One thing I heard yesterday that nobody's talking about is that Hunter Biden essentially confessed under oath during the allocution portion of the hearing.

Part of the process of hearing the plea deal is that the witness has to prove that he knows the charges against him, he knows the things that the plea deal is offering to him, that he describes the crimes that he committed in enough detail to demonstrate that the prosecution had more than reasonable likelihood of proving their case in court, and that he is not being coerced to take the plea deal.

Hunter Biden, as a part of his allocution under oath, described the business deal he was setting up with a Chinese businessman. If was after this point that the plea deal fell apart when the defense and prosecution disagreed on the terms of the deal. This left Biden stuck with having already described his crime under oath and then pleading not guilty.

I don't know how he will be able to have his confession tossed out as it happened under oath in open court in front of the judge, the prosecution, and his legal team.

-PJ

24 posted on 07/27/2023 10:19:53 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: SeekAndFind

Joe will pardon Hunter on his last day in office.
Which could be any day now.


25 posted on 07/27/2023 10:24:23 PM PDT by JustaTech (My mind is the weapon. Everything else is tools.)
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To: Quentin Quarantino

“DC is a casino.It makes its own rules.”

And the house always wins.


26 posted on 07/27/2023 10:31:20 PM PDT by I-ambush (We watched the moment of defeat, played back over on the video screen. )
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To: Political Junkie Too

You make a good point as to what Hunter Biden has said so far. But here’s how I think he’ll get off.

By prosecutorial misconduct.

Four types
What are the four types of prosecutorial misconduct
Failing to turn over exculpatory evidence. Tampering with evidence. Knowingly presenting false witness testimony or other false evidence to a court or grand jury. Asking a defendant or defense witness damaging and suggestive questions with no factual basis.

Examples of prosecutorial misconduct involving improper arguments include:
Asserting facts that are not in evidence.
Misstating laws.
Vouching for the credibility of a witness.
Mischaracterizing evidence.
Discriminating in jury selection.
Interfering with a defendant’s Constitutional rights.
Failing to train subordinates.

It would greatly benefit the Biden crime syndicate to have the prosecutor screw up and have a mistrial . Or if there is no mistrial, and a judgment is found against Hunter it will later be set aside for any number of reasons.


27 posted on 07/27/2023 10:36:41 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Tagline for sale.)
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REALITY CHECK.......when a defendant backs out of a generous plea deal, such as the one rigged for Hunter, federal prosecutors ordinarily will pursue all of the available charges — including jail time.

The Biden-controlled Justice Department may now find it has no choice.........it could be forced to actually treat Hunter like an ordinary citizen.

<><>The evidence of wrongdoing from the alleged bribery operation hasn’t been refuted or disproven.
<><>Hunter was about to plead guilty to rigged gun and tax evasion charges and get no jail time.
<><>Hunter’s sweetheart plea got tossed by a judge who apparently saw it as a perversion of justice.
<><>More unethical activities were uncovered through new emails, where Hunter wanted a $2 million retainer to recover frozen Libyan assets in 2015.
<><>The extortionate emails were sent among Democratic donors, who mulled the proposal due to opportunistic Hunter’s access to then-VP Joe Biden.
<><>Hunter is also being investigated for being a foreign agent by the Justice Department, and not registering as such, which renowned law professor, Jonathan Turley, said is a charge the Biden White House fears most.


28 posted on 07/27/2023 10:47:55 PM PDT by Liz (More tears are shed over answered prayers than over unanswered ones. St Teresa of Avila)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I understand what you're suggesting, but I don't think prosecutorial misconduct will work here.

Another fact that's not been widely reported is that, technically, there are no charges against Hunter Biden; he hasn't been indicted for anything! The so-called "plea deal" was really a back-door pardon since it wasn't tied to an actual indictment by a grand jury, and it gave Biden immunity from "future" crimes, that is, crimes not yet discovered (or perhaps even committed).

To borrow a phrase, the plea deal was an "ex-ante" arrangement.

What Biden himself could do is claim incompetent counsel. Biden could say that he would never have confessed in open court if he had known how flimsy the plea deal was, how unscrupulously the immunity was buried in the diversion program side-deal, and that he was shocked --- shocked --- to find out that his team and the prosecutors were colluding.

Nobody would believe it, but it would have enough cover to use it to wipe this all away and start over. They've been brazen enough to this point, why stop now?

-PJ

29 posted on 07/27/2023 11:05:09 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Liz
federal prosecutors ordinarily will pursue all of the available charges — including jail time.

The difference here is that the prosecutors were in on it, too. This was a case of the Biden DoJ working with the Biden defense team to clear a Biden of all charges.

The Bidens even had a mole inside the Delaware US Attorney's Office -- Alexander Mackler. Mackler was a press secretary in Joe Biden's Senate office, legal counsel in his vice presidential office, on the Biden-Harris transition team, and managed Beau Biden's campaign for Delaware attorney general.

Mackler also had several personal emails or texts between himself and Hunter Biden expressing a close, familial, relationship.

-PJ

30 posted on 07/27/2023 11:14:56 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too

I’m not a lawyer. And I don’t play one on TV. And your guess is as good as mine as to how this will play out. But I think we can all agree that in the end Hunter will get away with it. Joe will get away with it.


31 posted on 07/27/2023 11:15:02 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Tagline for sale.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Nice deconstruction.


32 posted on 07/27/2023 11:18:28 PM PDT by Liz (More tears are shed over answered prayers than over unanswered ones. St Teresa of Avila)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I totally understand your skepticism, but I'm not so sure.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Democrats try to craft a "Richard Nixon" moment here, and tell Joe Biden to step down for the good of the party.

Now, what that "good of the party" is I can't say. It could be that they are so sure of their voter fraud machine that they could put a ham sandwich in office (that's YOU, Kamala).

I we WERE to look to Watergate for clues, it's possible to me that the Democrats will see no way out and decide that it's better for their long-term agenda (something Republicans fail at) to amputate the limb and strengthen the remaining parts of the body.

It's not my nature to give Democrats political advice, but here is what I would do here:

  1. The Bidens are a criminal liability. Throw them all under the bus.
  2. Kamala Harris will ascend to the presidency as the first black woman president who slept her way to the top and then threw out her boss to take his job. She will then cite Gerald Ford (the first president nobody voted for, as Archie Bunker once said) and pardon Joe and Hunter Biden for the sake of the nation.
  3. The Democrats will rush to flood the zone with primary candidates to ensure that Harris does not make it to the convention. Hello, Gavin!
  4. At this point, the Democrats will start to lose control of the monster that Bidenstein created. Maybe Andrew Cuomo will decide to run. Maybe Heir Whitmer will run. Chief Warren. Hillary!
  5. At this point, I can't see any further. The clown show will just have to parade before us.
-PJ
33 posted on 07/27/2023 11:29:04 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Liz
I can't claim credit. Our side's journalists dug this out in the last few days.

-PJ

34 posted on 07/27/2023 11:31:24 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: DesertRhino
“Turley adds that the pardon would have to include numerous crimes, “

Not really. It can be for any and all federal crimes between date “A” and date “B”.

Or - as in the case of President Ford's Executive Pardon of ex-President Nixon - for "any Federal crimes he may or may not have committed prior to XYZ."

Regards,

35 posted on 07/27/2023 11:32:08 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
One thing I heard yesterday that nobody's talking about is that Hunter Biden essentially confessed under oath during the allocution portion of the hearing.

"Do I have to do the allocution?"

Regards,

36 posted on 07/27/2023 11:37:19 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: TBP

Its actually a best “out” for Joseph Stolen.

He doesnt leave because his mind is gone, he doesnt leave because Trump beats him. He pulls a Nixon w/ a twist and leaves because he controls the terms which he leaves on.


37 posted on 07/28/2023 12:27:42 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Quentin Quarantino
Of course, he’ll pardon his shitbag son. DC is a casino, it makes its own rules.

Even if he can’t pardon the chump, he might do it anyway, and defy the pubbies to do something about it.

38 posted on 07/28/2023 1:14:02 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: SeekAndFind

Article based upon the premise that SloJoe is running again, he’s not.
He’ll pardon golden boy on the way out the door, or sooner, if necessary.


39 posted on 07/28/2023 2:38:28 AM PDT by Fireone (Trump won.)
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To: SeekAndFind

My money says there is a stack of pardons in a file ready to be signed for everyone involved in the Coup that has and is taking place.
, has to be several hundred by now.


40 posted on 07/28/2023 3:07:32 AM PDT by stockpirate (Where Justice Ends Tyranny Begins...Repression Breeds Violence")
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