Posted on 07/25/2023 2:35:20 AM PDT by Cronos
Governments start wars in pursuit of various objectives, from conquering territory to changing the regime of a hostile state. Once a war begins, the stakes are immediately raised. It is one of the paradoxes of war that even as its original objectives drift out of reach or are cast aside, the necessity of not being seen as the loser only grows in importance—such importance, in fact, that even if winning is no longer possible, governments will still persevere to show that they have not been beaten.
...All of these dynamics are evident in Russia’s war against Ukraine. r Putin set as his objectives the “denazification” and “demilitarization” of Ukraine. - By the first, he meant regime change, in which case the war has clearly been a failure. - As for demilitarization, Ukraine is on its way to becoming the most militarized country in Europe. - Many of the Russian speakers in Ukraine on whose behalf Putin claimed to be acting now prefer to speak Ukrainian, while the Russian-speaking areas of the Donbas have been battered, deindustrialized, and depopulated because of this ruinous war.
...Russian forces have failed to take complete control of any of the four oblasts that Putin claimed for Russia in September2022. Much of the ground initially seized after the full-scale invasion has been relinquished..
Putin is not close to achieving any of his war aims while the price of his gambit grows ever steeper.
...Being stuck with bits and pieces of Ukrainian territory with hostile populations, massive reconstruction bills, and long frontlines with an undefeated Ukraine, would not look like a big win—especially when set against the many casualties incurred by Russian forces, the degradation of the Russian army, the sputtering Russian economy, and the knock to Russia’s standing as a great and influential power.
(Excerpt) Read more at foreignaffairs.com ...
Citing actual sources can be so irritating for some for whom un-sourced assertions are indisputable, debate-winning facts.
And now....
...as to the “Democratic Socialists of FR,” I am encouraged to think such a list will be forthcoming. Any time now....
So where did you get your false statement of “Many Ukrainians are now identifying with their host countries and will never come back.”
Why do you repeat that lie?
And you are one of the heaviest, most reliable, Communist and Putinist propagandists on the site, which is why you comment on this and other post, right?
Putin wanted a vassal state - like Belarus.
He lost that and will not get it.
Now he just wants an “out”
The Democrats like you support Putin, correct?
Field Marshal Zhukov - you constantly seem to spout Putinist propaganda. Why?
Oh yeah, that’s me.
Your keen analysis sustains unabated.
Why do you think it is a lie?
Just because you know people who “hope” to move back to Ukraine (but notice, in your language they are not committing to it) make my statement a lie? Sounds like your people are identifying with their host countries, dont you think?
You’re about the last person here to be accusing others of lying.
You can post Communist propaganda and you can post Putin propaganda, but you cannot do both.
Your bot is broken again. You failed to list any elected Demonrats that support Russia and Putin. So did your other sockpuppet, Krosan.
Who is this Zhukov person ? I have no Russian ancestry, but a small bit of Baltic.
I think the bigger question is why do you think, #1, you have the right to dictate American foreign policy when you’re a Eastern European, and #2, why you think spouting globalist-leftist Soros/Schwarz/Zelensky propaganda on a Conservative website is either welcome or respected ? Do tell.
Oh, gosh, he has so wounded us ! This dummy is a laugh riot.
Nice try, Field Marshal Zhukov.
Communist propaganda - centralized control of the economy with a leftist dictator controlling it.
Putin - a dictator for the past 23 years with a centralized control of Russia
You didn’t answer my question, princess.
Wrong again, princess.
Well newbie, what a vociferous rant. It amounts to Drivelous balderdash totally irrelevant to the thread
It is in fact just plain funny that you would jump, no leap, to such an irrational conclusion and try to bolster it with accusitational anti Christian tripe
You and your genocidally psychotic ally, MeganC, made it plain that nothing less than the extermination of 150 million Russians will suffice, many of whom are Christians.
So again, I ask, when are you leaving for Kiev to fight, honeybuns ? Quit the keyboard kommandoing and put your money where your mouth is for your globalist masters.
BTW, I’ve been here on FR since 1998. How long have you been polluting my state of Tennessee for ?
Nah Zhukov - Russia is losing thanks to Putin.
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