Lawmakers press for transparency ahead of UFO hearing

thehill ^ | 7/20/2023 | BY MIRANDA NAZZARO AND NICK ROBERTSON

[RoosterRedux]

I see where you are coming from. Doesn’t mean I approve of it.;-)

[no-to-illegals]

May a Squirrel steal your ah hmmmmms

[no-to-illegals]

Btw no offense intended

[RoosterRedux]

None taken.

[ifinnegan]

Says a guy literally supporting the government.

You don’t see the irony?

[RoosterRedux]

The government is fighting this tooth and nail. Just like you, the government doesn't want free speech about this issue.

Do YOU see the irony?

BTW, it is stunning that people on the Right are just as against free speech as people on the Left are. Talk about irony.

Every time this issue comes up on FR, the no-free-speech crowd comes running out with "Squirrel!"!

BTW, there is no half way point of free speech. We either have free speech or we don't.

[RoosterRedux]

BTW, look at the issues you raised at the top of this thread. Each and every one of these should be discussed in open national debate. Why won't that happen? Because someone won't permit free speech about them...because the truth might come out.

Look at your issues once again. There should be an honest free speech about each and every issue...but there isn't!

UFO’s

Global Warming

Covid overreaction hysteria.

Biden won.

Men are women.

Drugs are good.

Children should see pornography.

[ifinnegan]

You don’t make any sense.

Anyhow, I read UFO stuff when I was kid. It was one of my biggest interests at the time. John Keel was my favorite.

[ifinnegan]

I actually know who Phillip Klaus is.

I never read anything by him.

I liked John Keel.

I read all his books.

I read Gray Barker, and Bender’s own book. Brad Steiger. Howard Mender’s book.

I know about Kenneth Arnold, George Adamski.

Read Jacques Vallee and Berger. Loren Coleman.

Frank Edwards.

That’s off the top of my head.

[RoosterRedux]

You don’t make any sense.

You don't see it, do you?

Trying to suppress the speech of people who are talking about the UFO topic is stifling free speech.

Given your history of reading John Keel, etc., I would think you would be supportive of these threads.

BTW, I don't know what these UFO's are, I'm just saying, "Let people talk and reseach the topic and report on what they know...and let the chips fall where they will."

It's the government--particularly the military and the intelligence community--that wants to kill this issue.

[RoosterRedux]

BTW, if I misunderstood where you were coming from, forgive me.

I can be an idiot from time to time.;-)

[GingisK]

If you actually read the material, you would know that disclosure is being pushed by Dr. Stephan Greer, M.D. Greer is a concerned citizen who actually does more than vote in rigged elections and blog angrily. He got the attention of those representatives who are legislating for disclosure by rubbing the testimony of a large number of people in their faces.

The government isn't really supporting this effort. They are stonewalling as usual. The new legislation is to make it a felony to withhold critical secrets from elected officials.

You don’t see the irony?

Only that which hovers around people who don't know anything raising a ruckus with those who do.

[GingisK]

Why do you disrupt these threads?

[GingisK]

You don’t make any sense.

His post #46 made perfect sense, every word of it.

If you are actually trying to have a rational conversation, you should identify what didn't make sense to you. I'm sure clarification would be forthcoming.

[ifinnegan]

Lol. Now I don’t have free speech?

I was really in to this UFO strange phenomena field and came to understand later with age and wisdom it’s just another form of occultism.

I still have a soft spot for it in my heart and for people interested in it.

I don’t think people should be deceived by it, though, or go down rabbit holes.

Last UFO book I read was “Shockingly Close to the Truth! Confessions of a Grave-Robbing Ufologist” by James Mosely in 2002. First I’d read since I was a teen. I’d never heard of Mosely and didn’t know he was a friend of Barker and had put in the 1967 UFO convention in New York where Keel was named Ufologist of the year. It’s a great book about the field in the 50’s and 60’s and beyond and about his hijinks with Gray Barker.

[GingisK]

Oh, you certainly do have free speech. Consider that your last post to me was the only one that carried information and a willingness to discuss the issue. Meaningful posts are one thing, but what you have been doing up until that last post is detrimental to your peers.

Consider this: Your ridicule serves only to piss people off and to drive away those who are genuinely curious and anxious to learn something. Government paid shills, like Klass, ruined a lot of people's reputations as a means to to hide secrets. You are using the same techniques. If you want to express why you think this issue is based on trash, then do so with an intellectual argument backed with references.

None of us here know what is going on. Most of us want to know even if the answer is mundane. Pitch right on in with useful and tangible information, and you'll fit right in. On the other hand, we would like to have a decent conversation without your snarky sharp-shooting that usually terminates the conversation. We deserve an uninterrupted and free-flowing forum.

[GingisK]

I’m proud of you for for your post #55. THAT was discussion that contained tasty meat. ;-D