Posted on 07/16/2023 8:41:26 AM PDT by devere
This analysis is neither accurate nor complete. It turns on the hinge of NATO / not NATO and there is a whole lot more in heaven and earth than just an old tired Eurosclerotic bureaucracy. Also it is appearing that that which failed to crack is now cracking. Gloriously. Turkey and Findland for instance.
Looks like you need to choose the propaganda you WANT to believe.
How many Trillion will it take the Ukraine to “win”? Define a win and how it helps America?”
P.S. - China
not true
Ukrainains are of Jewish, Greek and Viking ancestry and a much older nation than Muskovy, who are Slavs
Putin is one rat that I wouldn’t want to back into a corner. It’s probably better that he die than see no graceful exit from the war.
Ukraine was *supposed* to be easily defeated in a couple of weeks. They are defeating putin now. russia is a mess
The war will grind on for months now. It will not end until some new crisis interrupts the timeline. A new war or revolt that will take the focus off of Ukraine. Maybe France will go into revolution? Iran invades Iraq? China invades Vietnam? Civil War in Canada or Mexico? In time this war will end with a whimper and not a bang.
The Inching Forward is a feint
The actual offensive is directed toward the Russian supply lines and pitifully weak logistics. The Russian army relies on the railroads for supply. There are but two main railroads. They are receiving repeated damage.
Further and as, if not more important, the supplies must be off loaded. The dumps are being systematically destroyed. The soldiers in the trenches are increasingly left with nothing to fight with if they can fight on empty bellies
Meanwhile, the Russian command structure is in serious and actually unknown turmoil
Ukraine and Europe are still waiting on the US to give the OK for pilot training on F-16 simulators. Any planes will not arrive until next Spring at the earliest. Far too late to help this offensive.
but you said the problem is minefields, which air does not help with
What Ukraine is doing is the exact USA / NATO tactics for a breach operation. The same tactics using the same engineering vehicles - and they are getting slaughtered.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI0Vprf7FBo
The 47th Brigade is the closest to a NATO force. All new recruits, trained by NATO, ideological nationalists from West Ukraine. Bradleys and Leopards.
They have been attacking South from Orikhiv, and they have the worst losses of any of the Brigades.
What is being exploded in the Russian minefields is the myth of USA NATO military superiority.
the homozation
of the earth
destruction
reminds me
of the Japanese
attacking
Manchuria - China
Hillary in f 16’s
The Last Emporer
You neocons are delusional and a joke to anyone that is following what is going on rather than listening to or repeating propaganda.
The only ground "gained" is grey zones, which are set up as kill zones by the Russians.
wishing oasis well
pretty picture reflections
mirage quicksand
That is true, but Putin’s desire to continue to live in luxury and security is a lever than can be used to broker a cease fire or even a peace deal. By way of precedent, the Napoleonic wars ended not with Napoleon dead but alive in exile after he signed a final and definitive peace treaty and was packed off to the remote British possession of St. Helena. This helped to support the legitimacy of the settlement imposed on France and led to a long era of peace that gradually aligned the two former adversaries (France and Britain) as close allies.
Right, 40+ countries are arming Ukraine because of "ethnic hatreds" and not because Putin has gone rogue, breaking numerous treaties by invading and annexing a neighboring countries territory.
Our nation must not be the Globalist Police. 40+ countries arming Ukraine are in it for what they can get out of it, not from any altruistic moral urges.
Come to think of it, the Zelensky Skiddy-mer-rink-a-dink-a- dink, skiddy-mer-rink-a-doo family has gotten filthy rich on the lucre from this manufactured conflict.
Not really. NATO has been reinvigorated by the Russian attack on Ukraine, which has demonstrated that NATO remains necessary.
Barring a major shift in this picture in the remaining two months or so that are available before the autumn rains begin, the prospect appears to be for an ongoing, grinding, war of attrition in eastern Ukraine.
I know. When the NYT Times admits a Democrat action is failing, you’re done.
It’s been over. All that’s occurring is more men dying for no reason.
You fail to understand Western Combined Arms Maneuver - it cannot be done correctly without air.
Air preforms SEAD and other missions making it possible for the ground troops and vehicles to breach.
Cluster munitions destroy the enemy trenches and importantly broadly mine fields allowing d-mining by specialty vehicles at 5rth point of breach - this is done so the enemy cannot know at which point the breach will take place.
No they are not getting slaughtered - UA losses are roughly 1/3rd Russian - attackers always take heaver casualties than defenders - but not in the southern front - showing the poor state of the RGF. Many RGF units have only a handful of rifle rounds because they are not allowed to have more by their officers as they have said in several videos.
Keep reading Russian propaganda - you might be interested in watching 13 BTRs and tanks attacking a trench network - as shown on Russian public TV, except not shown was the trenches were empty. Very valiant and brave RGF troops preforming for the Russian Public and Western propaganda readers.
Look at the map and spot the advances of your heroes. Facts are facts - and spouting the latest Moscow lines does not change the reality.
You are right about NYT.
Typically NYT leaks Pentagon and WaPo leaks CIA. It’s interesting that both sources have been broadcasting bad news about Biden for months, no one here seems to read them or understand the significance of what is being said.
The Dems have been signaling that Biden is done since December. I can’t believe people still post, every day, “Biden this, Biden that” - as if he were an important person.
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