Posted on 07/13/2023 12:49:27 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier
On July 4, Ben & Jerry’s public relations division made headlines by tweeting, “It’s high time we recognize that the US exists on stolen Indigenous land and commit to returning it.”
The tweet was widely criticized. But behind the grandstanding and virtue-signaling, there is a deadly serious movement within American and Canadian liberal circles that holds both of these countries to be illegitimate.
...[T]he cause is so popular on social media platforms such as Twitter and why people need to understand and arm themselves with counterarguments.
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
The purpose of B&J's pronouncement is to disenfranchise the working class and empower their own class.
The leftist elite rulers say they want us to give the land but really they want it for themselves. We would give it up to them and they would happily hold on to it while they try to locate the rightful owners. They won’t be able to find the rightful owners. They will then be able to keep it. They won’t give it back to us. Then they will stop talking about the original issue.
The little rats at The Hill rush to rescue B & J’’s.
And the Apaches fought with other groups, or bands of Apaches. Which is how the US Army finally subdued them, by befriending various Apache groups with grievances against other groups.
The Fort Laramie treaty of 1868, assuming it was ratified by the US Senate, is US law under the US constitution.
So it’s not about whether the Sioux were nice people (they weren’t), it’s about upholding our own laws, which we don’t seem to be too good at.
Just sneakier.
This is all part of the original UN Agenda 21. If people remember, they had drawn up plans to get the white men off of the rural land, west of the Mississippi and herd the Whites into urban Planned Cities, which would act as trade and travel hubs. The urban trade zones would be connected by what they called multi-modal transportation lines, which would be limited access and off-ramps. The idea was to limit the incursion of Whites into rural areas and return the land to the people to whom it rightfully belonged. Their plans even included an experimental, covered bio-sphere, where people would live and work.
They also planned to return all water rights, minerals rights, etc. They have already started on returning the water rights in Whatcom County, WA. They are more reticent about the natural gas, which is found in the area. They don’t want anyone pulling that out of the ground.
How the tribes treated each other BEFORE the arrival of the White Man...And this is just my short list! I used to have many more which now lead to 404 Page Not Found, so it looks like someone is scrubbing many of these links from the Internet.
http://wkfl.asn.au/bk/crow_creek_history.htm
https://news.illinois.edu/view/6367/391703
https://prezi.com/z9ioohxrdgat/anasazi-cannibalism/?fallback=1
https://bonesdontlie.wordpress.com/2012/04/03/basketmaker-ii-cave-7-massacre-or-cemetery/
https://www.jstor.org/stable/1593823
https://www.archaeology.org/news/3645-150828-cahokia-mound-72
Title by conquest is an ancient right.
Now wait. I saw Dances With Wolves. The Sioux were peace loving hippie Buddhists til the evil white man showed up. North America had peace and prosperity from sea to shining sea until the Europeans brought wheels and steel.
Native Americans were human too.
Just about every part of the world has histories of people displacing other people.
So what exactly is supposed to be done about this? We can recount the history of how Indian tribes were relocated off of land. But it sounds like a number of Indian tribes had conquered or displaced other Indian tribes .
Will we eventually see reparations paid to American Indians?
What exactly is the goal of people, who are bringing all this up ,and talking about injustices ,and how we need to somehow make up for the sins of History?
Ben in Jerry’s.
Exactly. I spent two years among various tribes in Alberta and Saskatchewan (Cree, Stoney, Sarcee, Blackfoot). I recall all of them saying people—including them—did not own the land. The “Great Spirit” owned the land. So Ben & Jerry stole their land from the “Great Spirit”.
“So file a lawsiouxt”
ROFL!
Did the military/ government make a deal with the Crow or the Three Affiliated Tribes?
NO
The government made a deal with the Lakota
Did the military/ government make a deal with the Crow or the Three Affiliated Tribes?
NO
The government made a deal with the Lakota
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