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Wagner Turns Over 2,000 Heavy Weapons Including Tanks, SAM Systems
The Warzone via Yahoo ^ | July 12th, 2023 | Howard Altman

Posted on 07/12/2023 2:37:39 PM PDT by Mariner

In the wake of his aborted mutiny last month, Yevgeny Prigozhin and his Wagner Private Military Company turned over more than 2,000 weapons and pieces of equipment more than 2,500 tons of ammunition and over 20,000 small arms, the Russian Defense Ministry (MoD) said on its Telegram channel Wednesday. A video showing turned over Wagner tanks and other armor, artillery pieces, land mines and boxes apparently full of munitions has also been distributed.

The cache of arms and ammunition displayed by the Russian MoD - if it indeed did come from Wagner - showcases Prigozhin's force of high-end weaponry.

This list of equipment provided by the Russian MoD includes "hundreds of heavy weapons like T-90, T-80, T-72B3 tanks, Grad and Uragan multiple-launch rocket systems, Pantsir surface-to-air missile systems, 2S1 Gvozdika 122 mm self-propelled artillery systems, 2S3 Akatsiya 152 mm, 2S5 Giatsint 152 mm, 2S4 Tulpan 240 mm, howitzers and anti-tank guns, mortar systems, multipurpose armored tractors, armored personnel carriers, as well as motor vehicles."

(Excerpt) Read more at yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: africa; belarus; ruzzia; wagnergroup; yevgeniyprigozhin
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Enough for a couple of armored divisions.

WTF?

1 posted on 07/12/2023 2:37:39 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner

Hmm, and how much was lost to “spoilage” I wonder?


2 posted on 07/12/2023 2:45:17 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

The article says “like new” and “new”.


3 posted on 07/12/2023 2:50:46 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Ah, I guess you missed my subtle reference there.

“Spoilage” in the retail industry is often a euphemism for “losses due to internal theft”. As in “oh, mark those 50 cases of missing beer down as ‘spoilage’”.


4 posted on 07/12/2023 2:54:08 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Mariner

So the question is not what will the Wagner Group being doing in Belarus? If they don’t have advanced weapons, then they are mercenaries and/or convict contractors with little advanced arms. Some are cannon fodder and some are skilled killers.

How will the Wagner Group use their expensive troops without advanced weapons. Or will they just let their contracts expire and they will move to someone else who will pay for their services/

Only time will tell.


5 posted on 07/12/2023 3:07:19 PM PDT by Robert357
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To: Mariner

if this demonstrates what Prigozhin had managed to obtain through semi-official and unofficial channels ...


6 posted on 07/12/2023 3:08:55 PM PDT by Mr Radical (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: Mariner

I read elsewhere the other day that the regular Russian army was signing up many Wagner soldiers as members of the Russian army.


7 posted on 07/12/2023 3:15:02 PM PDT by elpadre
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To: Mariner

“....The article says “like new” and “new”....”

from NATO and the US ??????


8 posted on 07/12/2023 3:17:15 PM PDT by elpadre
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To: Mariner

I wonder how they turned them over. They are quite heavy and would be damaged by rolling over on their turrets or whatever is on top of them and then it will be really hard to get them upright afterwards.


9 posted on 07/12/2023 3:21:40 PM PDT by webheart
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To: Boogieman

My guess is that Putin is learning the hard way not to rely on warlords, mercenaries, and the Chinese.


10 posted on 07/12/2023 3:24:18 PM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: Mariner

The Russians took these weapons out of one pocket and placed them in another when they furnished the weapons to Wagner. Now, as Russia coordinates its forces, lo and behold, the weapons have been shifted to another pocket. Shocking developments!


11 posted on 07/12/2023 3:37:20 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: elpadre

That is true!!


12 posted on 07/12/2023 3:40:16 PM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: Robert357

When I was a kid in grade school in the 70’s, in Western lower Michigan a friend’s dad had a local gun shop. He said a guy in the area bought some higher end military rifles etc there. He was a Vietnam vet and did mercenary work in Rhodesia and elsewhere that would hire him. The local paper did a fairly sympathetic article about him. He described his former military service and how he wanted to keep fighting communism wherever it was trying to take root.


13 posted on 07/12/2023 4:28:41 PM PDT by desertsolitaire ( )
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To: Mariner

I really had the good popcorn out for all that too. Dang!


14 posted on 07/12/2023 4:47:53 PM PDT by know.your.why
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“My guess is that Putin is learning the hard way not to rely on warlords, mercenaries, and the Chinese.”

I’ve been contemplating the historical agreement between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany until the onset of Barbarossa. It makes me curious about the potential for China to eventually turn against Russia. History tends to repeat itself in certain patterns.


15 posted on 07/12/2023 5:05:44 PM PDT by DEPcom (DC is not my Capitol after Jan 6th lock downs.)
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To: Mariner

Sounds like Wagner PMC is being liquidated entirely. The mercenaries will likely be sent back to prison or they’ll face summary execution...which seems to be what happened to Prigozhin.


16 posted on 07/12/2023 5:18:14 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: desertsolitaire
This guy’s wife was my Sunday school teacher when I was in elementary/middle school.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitchell_WerBell_III

Werbell was OSS in WWII

My dad and I got invited to sight in our hunting rifles on his personal range (back in around 1973) a few times. You can read his bio. I got to listen to him tell quite a few stories, one in particular about a mission to dispatch Che Guevara.

In high school, I part time worked in his sons retail business, Brigade Quartermaster.

17 posted on 07/12/2023 5:41:29 PM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Mariner

once they are all disarmed, they will be rounded up and shot.


18 posted on 07/12/2023 6:35:41 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: Magnum44

The Feds would start to harass him occasionally. He’d give an interview to the local paper, tell a few tales, and hint that he had some really good stories about something that he might talk about later, and the federal investigation would suddenly disappear.

He made a nice little machine pistol back in the day.


19 posted on 07/12/2023 6:58:08 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Yep, sionics made silencers and one of his companies made MAC10’s if I recall. He had one displayed on his desk in his office/study in his powder springs home.

His basement was wall to wall guns on display. I’m sure there was much more than what he showed us as well.


20 posted on 07/12/2023 7:08:11 PM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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