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Biden: We’re Sending Cluster Munitions to Ukraine Because ‘We’re Low on’ Ammo They Need and They’re ‘Running out of’ Ammo
Breitbart ^ | 07/07/2023 | Ian hatchett

Posted on 07/07/2023 7:34:11 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

During a portion of an interview with Washington Post columnist and CNN host Fareed Zakaria set to air on Sunday’s broadcast of CNN’s “Fareed Zakaria GPS” that was released on Friday, President Joe Biden defended his decision to send cluster munitions to Ukraine by stating that Ukraine is “running out” of the ammunition that they need, and “we’re low on it.”

Biden said, “[I]t was a very difficult decision on my part. And by the way, I discussed this with our allies. I discussed this with our friends up on the Hill. And we’re in a situation where Ukraine continues to be brutally attacked across the board by munitions, by these cluster munitions that have dud rates that are very, very low — I mean, very high, that are a danger to civilians, number one.”

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To: hardspunned

Why the heck is the IS low on ammunition?


41 posted on 07/07/2023 9:08:34 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn’t become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: gitmo

I want to know how low the U.S. is on ammo.

Does this mean patriots don’t need F-15s anymore?


42 posted on 07/07/2023 9:13:44 PM PDT by TigersEye (Woke is a cancer of the mind and humanity)
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To: Reno89519
This is likely to lead to war crimes.
Maybe they're setting up ole Joe for 'ordering' the use of cluster-type WMD.
43 posted on 07/07/2023 9:16:03 PM PDT by citizen (Put all LBQTwhatever programming on a new subscription service: PERV-TV)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

So like make more?


44 posted on 07/07/2023 9:18:42 PM PDT by mom.mom (...our flag was still there.)
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To: TigersEye

You really don’t know what their importance is at this stage?


45 posted on 07/07/2023 9:35:27 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

> Ukraine is “running out” of the ammunition that they need, and “we’re low on it.”

We’re low on ammunition? Where’d the money go? We’ve been preparing for full scale war with Russia for 70 years.


46 posted on 07/07/2023 9:42:11 PM PDT by ArcadeQuarters (You can't remove RINOs by voting for them!)
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To: ansel12

I know you left this out from the German news source you keep citing.

“Kyiv is also said to have used the weapons, but in a more limited way.”

Where did Kyiv get them if the U.S. hasn’t provided any yet?


47 posted on 07/07/2023 9:42:54 PM PDT by TigersEye (Woke is a cancer of the mind and humanity)
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To: gitmo

“Why the heck is the IS low on ammunition?”

Because after the Cold War, the USA decided to disband most of its military production (to go along with the rest of the de-industrialization and offshoring).

And note it was not just Billy Jeff Clinton, Rumsfeld tried to get rid of field artillery entirely since his “experts” told him it was obsolete.

The USA has one artillery production line in Scranton that can produce ~500 rounds per 8 hour shift.

So, when the Pentagon says they are “doubling” 155mm shell production, that is up to 1000 shells per day.

Ukraine needs 7000/day minimum.

The only four NATO countries that have 155mm shell production are USA, UK, Greece, Turkey


48 posted on 07/07/2023 9:43:30 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

This has a map showing which countries have banned cluster bombs:

https://www.dw.com/en/despite-being-outlawed-cluster-bombs-continue-to-maim-and-kill-civilians/a-62133429

Apparently, Ukraine, Russia, Poland, Denmark, Greece and Romania have not signed onto the Convention on Cluster Munitions.


49 posted on 07/07/2023 9:45:51 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (ARTICLE I SECTION 2....The President...may require the opinion, in writing)
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To: ansel12

Russians have been using cluster munitions as well as phosphorus bombs against civilians on a regular basis.


50 posted on 07/07/2023 9:47:20 PM PDT by MS60
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To: TigersEye

I have been mentioning Ukraine using some CBs all day, it wasn’t relevant in that post.

Remember that Ukraine had old Soviet stocks of weapons.


51 posted on 07/07/2023 9:47:33 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

The only thing that is relevant here is that Joe “Blow” Biden has approved of the U.S. giving Ukraine cluster munitions.


52 posted on 07/07/2023 9:51:34 PM PDT by TigersEye (Woke is a cancer of the mind and humanity)
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To: Trumpisourlastchance

“$135 Billion to a CIA-installed regime that has built a hundred monuments to Nazi collaborators who mass murdered Poles, Jews and others wasn’t enough, apparently.”

Wrong. Z won fair and square in a massive landslide. The Nazi collaborators you are alluding to did not mass murder Poles, Jews, and others. Russians did. The “Nazi collaborators” fought against both, Communists and Nazis. Apparently, you are watching 1-й канал too much. Get your facts straight.


53 posted on 07/07/2023 9:53:49 PM PDT by MS60
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To: cowboyusa

WWII went for years. Should have come to the table and give Hitler what he wants in order to end the war?


54 posted on 07/07/2023 9:56:26 PM PDT by MS60
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To: Brian Griffin

Apparently, Denmark is part of the cluster munition ban convention:

https://reliefweb.int/report/denmark/denmark-takes-important-step-global-fight-against-cluster-munitions


55 posted on 07/07/2023 9:57:16 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (ARTICLE I SECTION 2....The President...may require the opinion, in writing)
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To: citizen

Still wrong, he’ll be dead before they could bring him to court and we, the US will be stuck with the guilt and cost of them being used in our proxy war with Russia.


56 posted on 07/07/2023 9:57:29 PM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected.)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

Eff off, orc.


57 posted on 07/07/2023 9:58:52 PM PDT by MS60
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To: MS60
Eff off, orc.

Right back at you, Soros puke.

58 posted on 07/07/2023 10:01:29 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: ChicagoConservative27

“A 2009 law bans exports of US cluster munitions with bomblet failure rates higher than 1 percent, which covers virtually all of the US military stockpile.

“Biden can waive prohibitions around the munitions as then-US President Donald Trump did in January 2021 to allow the export of cluster munitions technology to South Korea.”

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/7/7/ukraine-russia-live-news-zelenskyy-set-to-visit-turkey-for-talks


59 posted on 07/07/2023 10:01:43 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (ARTICLE I SECTION 2....The President...may require the opinion, in writing)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Ukraine is “running out” of the ammunition that they need, and “we’re low on it.”

Well they finally admitted it. Pretty bad when you run out of ammo and are losing. Better seek peace while you can.


60 posted on 07/07/2023 10:04:51 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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