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The Real Status of Black Students: How Has Affirmative Action Helped?
American Thinker ^ | 07/03/2023 | Robert A. Taft

Posted on 07/03/2023 8:00:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

In the late 1960s, affirmative action was advanced because women and minorities, with similar skills to those of White men, were being discriminated against in landing jobs. The object of affirmative action was to level the playing field for people with similar skill levels. Over the years studies have shown that women actually have benefited most from affirmative action, not African Americans.

But over the years affirmative action has evolved into a matter strictly of race: Black people get preferential treatment, period. Why has it evolved so?

Since its origin, liberals, both White and Black, have actively denigrated African American students.

First, President Lyndon Johnson's War on Poverty began to cripple the Black family. African American women could get more money from Uncle Sam than they could from their working husbands. Actually, if these husbands were working, their families could not have access to government benefits. Fathers left the home, leaving the raising of children to mothers and grandparents. By 2021, over four million African American kids live with only their mothers.

Second, overwhelmingly Democrat-led cities promised hope, but ran down their cities creating increasing crime and slums: environments of hopelessness.

Third, for the past several years schools have been teaching Critical Race Theory, in which Black students are told they are systemically inferior and will never be able to compete fairly with White students.

Liberals and Black activists hate the removal of affirmative action for racial purposes. They contend that African American children are underprivileged and need racial bias in the college selection process. They say these students are underprivileged because they are poor and live in high crime areas. Columbia University’s Poverty Tracker, though, contradicted this contention.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: affirmativeaction; blacks; college; education
It revealed that 23 percent of New York City’s Asian population was impoverished compared to 19 percent of the city’s Black population. And that in New York City, Asians’ relatively high poverty rate comes with exceptionally low crime rates.

So why are Black students so disadvantaged? According to the Census Bureau, most Black-intensive school districts get the most amount of money for education, averaging over $28,000 per pupil. Is the problem more about Black culture? But Black leaders and activists do not want to acknowledge that. Rather they want preferential treatment for black students.

Yet Professor John Ogbu studied the issue of Black student underperformance and reported: a) Black students readily admitted they didn't work as hard as Whites, took easier classes and read fewer books. And why? Black students said, “It was not cool to be successful or to work hard or to show how smart you are.”

1 posted on 07/03/2023 8:00:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
The Opportunity Myth study concluded: a) teachers who believe students are capable give students grade-level work; d) teachers who believe students aren't give their students below-grade work; and c) students know if their teachers believe their students can succeed and that determines students' motivation to learn.

CRT tells teachers that Black students cannot perform like White students. Thus, teachers look upon African American students as incapable by nature. Consequently, they give assignments at below-grade level. The Opportunity Myth study found that 40 percent of classes with mostly minority students never receive even one grade-level assignment.

Yet success rates on grade-level work between Blacks and Whites were similar: 56 percent Black students and 65 percent White students succeeded with grade-level assignments. Students -- White or Black -- who started the year behind grade level but had access to grade-level content caught up to peers within six months.

What does this tell us? It says that the liberal/Black activist approach to improving African American youth has been flawed for over 50 years. Rather than addressing issues of Black culture as Jason Riley pleaded people to do, these so-called psychological and anthropological experts have made excuses for African American students, basing their conclusions on bogus assumptions or inconclusive evidence.

2 posted on 07/03/2023 8:04:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
The black men in my computer science courses who stuck with it and got a BS in CS like I did have done fine.

Both of them.

3 posted on 07/03/2023 8:06:16 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Is the problem more about Black culture? “

The problem is the elephant in the room nobody wants to see - the Bell Curve.

Black AVERAGE IQ is 15% lower than the average for whites and even lower compared to Asians.

And as for culture, intelligence is upstream of culture. The higher the intelligence of a particular group of people the better their culture.


4 posted on 07/03/2023 8:15:52 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: SeekAndFind

A gym friend of mine was counselor at a pretty good public high school that was “transitioning” to racial “diversity.”

The affirmative action stuff was pretty obvious even back then.

His slogan for the “diverse” students was “It’s Yale or jail.”

One of his associates had her car keys stolen during a “counseling” session.


5 posted on 07/03/2023 8:16:32 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████. FJB.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Another in the long. long line of posting about what whites should do, or what they must not do, so that blacks can become like whites and live peaceably alongside them.

The answer.

6 posted on 07/03/2023 8:21:46 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Make the GOP illegal - everything else will follow)
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To: aquila48

Conceding for the sake of argument that for those whose genes all trace directly back to black africa that their average IQ is 15% lower. What is the IQ effect of blending in DNA of other origins. Those who consider themselves “black” who aren’t first generation Americans often have some component of white ancestry and a surprisingly large yet ignored fraction have some native american ancestry. If one concedes ethnic differences in IQ they ought to score somewhat differentially than their purely black ancestors. And as more inter racial relationships occur — certainly more common than it was 50+ years ago — any differences would be expected to narrow. With how quickly they narrow and just how much mixing it takes to achieve practical equality an interesting question.


7 posted on 07/03/2023 8:45:53 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Biden/Harris events are called dodo ops)
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To: SeekAndFind

We need equality in opportunity but not equality in outcomes. Each according to his ability, not the color of his skin.


8 posted on 07/03/2023 8:57:51 AM PDT by silent majority rising
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To: JohnBovenmyer

Another interesting question would be, for those with similarly mixed ancestry, does which race they choose to identify as affect their IQ? The source piece would suggest their choice of cultural identity might significantly affect it.


9 posted on 07/03/2023 8:58:40 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Biden/Harris events are called dodo ops)
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To: SeekAndFind

BTTT


10 posted on 07/03/2023 9:11:49 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: JohnBovenmyer

Dumb whites feel a need to think they are more intelligent than blacks.

Whatsmyreadinglevel app usually shows 4th and 5th grade level for folks posting of the IQ tests.

Ofc t just supports the notion that blacks are born inferior and need govt aid.

They share in this belief with the superior white leftist, whom knows the blacks cannot achieve on their own.

It is more important to feel comfort in the herd of dumb than possess the ideals of the nation.

After all it is based on the work of self serving leftist social scientists so it must be unimpeachable.

Not sure if folks heard but the avg human temp is not 98.6 even though folks consider that gospel and it is physical science.


11 posted on 07/03/2023 9:12:11 AM PDT by Freest Republican (This space for rent)
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To: JohnBovenmyer
Mixing has resulted in some very good quarterbacks.

Hybrid vigor, it is called.

12 posted on 07/03/2023 9:14:53 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (What diversity disaster will they come up with next?)
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To: silent majority rising

helped, just like you just got a job as an electrician because you are a gay farmer


13 posted on 07/03/2023 9:20:24 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: SeekAndFind

We left no Black Child, whether actually a student or not, behind; we dummed down the standards for graduation. Now everyone is uneducated but indoctrinated in Woke. Today the USG withholds any truth that might challenge the narrative. It took from 64 to 2020 destroy education in America. Today, the majority of blacks are in multi-generational families where Mom had her first kid at age 12, 13, 14 and nobody is allowed to say it Uncle Mike, Stepdad John, or the kids in the neighborhood who swap sex for pot.


14 posted on 07/03/2023 9:45:48 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: aquila48

Victimhood is the cause. The Idea that you are down because of your race has not served the black community well. Thug Culture hasn’t helped—same with “hate Whitie” racism. Blacks will vote for blacks even if they are crooks—just because they are black. They think that being black they will look out for their fellow blacks—look what Obama did for blacks-—zip.
Look at the Blacks after the Civil War—they faced real hate yet they built vibrant communities, invented Jazz, and even Universities—BY THEMSELVES-—without Government—in the face of government. In the end—Blacks must solve their own problems—and they will—if given half a chance.


15 posted on 07/03/2023 9:58:33 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: silent majority rising
We need equality in opportunity but not equality in outcomes.

However, that is what this generation of progressives is aiming for. DEI - Diversity-Equity-Inclusion.

Note the word "Equity". That does not mean equality of opportunity. It means equality of outcome. That is why you hear the word "equity" a lot more often than the word "equality" at this point in time.

16 posted on 07/03/2023 12:00:20 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: LibertarianLiz

True. That is why they carefully changed equality to equity.


17 posted on 07/03/2023 4:44:45 PM PDT by silent majority rising
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