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Nows it's our fault? 🙄🙄 Still counting those billions general?
1 posted on 07/01/2023 7:37:25 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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And it takes me a long time drive places because Biden didn’t give me a Ferrari.


2 posted on 07/01/2023 7:38:38 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've just pissed in my pants and nobody can do anything about it." -- Major Fambrough)
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Our fault for not sending $Billions More.


3 posted on 07/01/2023 7:40:31 AM PDT by tennmountainman (FUJB)
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The money laundering, child trafficking, bio weapon labs, and Nazi soldiers arent enough. Effem!


4 posted on 07/01/2023 7:42:08 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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Real leaders do not complain. They find a way.


5 posted on 07/01/2023 7:45:54 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Delay Trump’s trial, delay. Elect Trump President. Trump pardons himself.)
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This is why from a NATO and USA perspective, the entire Ukraine War is a fraud and has been the entire time.

Russia may not be a quality professional military, but they do have various precision weapons, an air force, navy, attack helicopters, etc., basically they have a full capability military.

They also have a numerical advantage in terms of the number of people they are willing to throw into the battle.

If NATO and the USA were serious about defeating Russia, they would have been providing everything Ukraine needed in terms of equipment and training long before this war began and not the incremental escalation that will never arrive in time to save Ukraine.

Modern fighter jets and capable air force requires modern jets and months if not years of training to work.

Ukraine is being sacrificed for the MIC and the oligarchs who run it.


6 posted on 07/01/2023 7:47:58 AM PDT by srmanuel
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Ukraine-Russia? Not my pasture, not my bull$hit.


8 posted on 07/01/2023 7:49:32 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (The best slaves put their own chains on )
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I keep saying terms like “Counter Offensive” and “Spring Initiative” are fundraising initiatives and marketing campaigns.

Nothing happens, Russia still keeps the real estate it took, yet massive amounts of money and equipment disappear.


9 posted on 07/01/2023 7:54:08 AM PDT by AAABEST ( NY/DC/CA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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Reich general rips his mouth away from out nipple long enough to criticize us. All for his “right” to abuse Russian speakers in the east.


13 posted on 07/01/2023 8:09:08 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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Get those F16s to Ukraine asap!


17 posted on 07/01/2023 8:13:47 AM PDT by Sunsong
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Aw c’mon. Just conscript a few more modern-day Nazis. That’ll do the trick.


18 posted on 07/01/2023 8:14:06 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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Summary from Moon of Alabama, for 30 June

“Over the last months I used a spreadsheet to list and sum up the Ukrainian casualties as they are listed in the daily reports of the Defense Ministry of Russia. These numbers are likely a bit too high but by what percentage, 10 or 20%, is hard to say.

From June 1 to June 30 the numbers sum up to: 313 tanks, 815 Infantry Fighting Vehicles and other armored vehicles, 313 howitzer and other long range artillery systems. The Ukraine also lost some 21,900 men which gives an average of 730 per day.

During the month the Russian air defense claimed to have shot down 15 Ukraine planes, 5 helicopters, 200 HIMARS and 20 Storm Shadow 'wonder weapon' missiles. Those numbers do not include the significant damage Russia has done to defense repair shops, weapon and ammunition depots all over Ukraine with its constant long range missile attacks. In total the Ukraine lost in one months more than Zaluzhny requested back in December and more than it has received during the time since.” ……………….

“ At the beginning of June, under pressure for the U.S., the Ukrainian army finally launched its counteroffensive. It was a dud. The Ukrainian troops entered the Russian security zone miles away from the real defense lines and immediately ran into mine fields and came under intense artillery fire. After 4 weeks of fighting they 'liberated' some 50 square miles of open land and a few small settlements. This came at significant costs: ……...

For example the first hour and a half of the 37th’s assault near Velyka Novosilka, the Russians bombarded the unit with nonstop shelling that penetrated their AMX-10 RC armored vehicles, according to Grey, another soldier in the battalion who spoke on the condition that he be identified only by his call sign. The armored vehicles, sometimes called “light tanks,” were not heavy enough to protect the soldiers, Grey said, and had to be positioned behind them instead of in front.

... “Everyone expected that we would have some kind of support, but unfortunately, for some reason, there was none,” Lumberjack said. His commander had little experience, he said, and had counted on assistance from artillery units. “But he got confused when he saw that there was none.”

At this speed it will take the Ukraine many years of fighting and an unlimited supply of weapons and men to kick the Russians out:

To put the matter in perspective: Today, Russia controls about 17 percent of the territory that was previously Ukraine’s. If Ukrainian forces are no more successful in the weeks ahead than they have been so far, Ukraine will not recapture all of its territory for 16 years……

Extract from link with more info https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/06/ukraines-zaluzhny-is-back-and-asking-for-more-weapons.html#comments

19 posted on 07/01/2023 8:14:51 AM PDT by silverleaf (It's not propaganda just because you disagree with it. )
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Now's it's our fault?

Not all of us; just the white guys.

20 posted on 07/01/2023 8:25:10 AM PDT by Bernard (“the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God." JFK 1-20-61)
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Yes, but he is correct in that it is suicide to attack without sufficient artillery and air support. Any commanding general who orders an attack he knows is impossible to win should be court-martialed.


21 posted on 07/01/2023 8:40:05 AM PDT by elpadre (nd )
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We need nukes. Give us nukes!


22 posted on 07/01/2023 8:40:42 AM PDT by PGR88
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Send:

- ammo
- 60mm mortars
- grenade launchers
- Tourniquets
- drones

Use armor to support troops, instead of wasting armor on “armor herds” and “armor spearheads.”


23 posted on 07/01/2023 8:45:22 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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If Ukraine had kept all of the money that they snuck to the Biden crime family, they would have had enough money to buy the equipment they want.


27 posted on 07/01/2023 8:59:20 AM PDT by Highest Authority (DemonRats are pure EVIL)
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The counteroffensive struggles should be blamed on the person who ordered a counteroffensive.
28 posted on 07/01/2023 9:05:10 AM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024 )
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more shovels!
please stop sending weapons so both sides can stop dying...
ukes never getting territory back but its better to keep what u have


29 posted on 07/01/2023 9:05:56 AM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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I heard that close to 700 Ukrainian soldiers surrendered yesterday. I know the numbers are usually inflated on both sides but that’s a lot of men even if it was half that number. Has anyone else heard about this?


30 posted on 07/01/2023 9:25:21 AM PDT by Rdct29 (The Democrats Are The New Nazi Party )
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We would do better if you would just give us guns, bullets, troops, planes, pilots, tanks, artillery, intel, logistics, and cash. Dont forget the cash. Plenty of cash.


31 posted on 07/01/2023 9:35:21 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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