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Top Ukraine General Blames Counteroffensive Struggles on Lack of Western Fighter Jets and Weapons
Breitbart ^ | 07/01/2023 | Kurt Zindulka

Posted on 07/01/2023 7:37:25 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

Ukraine’s top general has blamed the slow progress of the country’s counteroffensive against Russia on a supposed lack of Western-supplied weaponry and fighter jets.

Valery Zaluzhny, Ukraine’s military commander-in-chief, aired his frustrations with the growing concern in Western capitals and media that his forces are not making the expected gains against the heavily entrenched Russian forces.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Ukraine; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: counteroffensive; fighterjets; general; givememoremoneyyyy; lootingthetreasuryyy; sendmoreweaponryyyy; ukraine; zelenskyyyy
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Yes, but he is correct in that it is suicide to attack without sufficient artillery and air support. Any commanding general who orders an attack he knows is impossible to win should be court-martialed.


21 posted on 07/01/2023 8:40:05 AM PDT by elpadre (nd )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

We need nukes. Give us nukes!


22 posted on 07/01/2023 8:40:42 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Send:

- ammo
- 60mm mortars
- grenade launchers
- Tourniquets
- drones

Use armor to support troops, instead of wasting armor on “armor herds” and “armor spearheads.”


23 posted on 07/01/2023 8:45:22 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: ConservativeInPA

Real leaders do not complain. They find a way.

The also have a bad habit of stating the facts - in Combined Arms Warfare having the proper weapons is a must, else success will be slow and many will die needlessly.

There is no way to overcome the lack of modern air power, except by losing many more troops then necessary.

The only answer to the Russian KA-52 is F-16s or F-18s. Nothing else can hit them from 9 miles beyond the FEBA. They only get taken down when they get too close to some guy with a manpad. Which is not that often.

F-16s or F-18s would effectively ground Russia’s helicopter fleet.

Lack of battle preparation using LR Artillery and missiles is essential - Ukraine only has a very limited selection and limited supply of those weapons - some of which like the Storm Shadow are software crippled.

Facts not complaints.


24 posted on 07/01/2023 8:45:31 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: blitz128

Zelensky knew from the get go thy would not get air power....he thought he could get no fly zones. He thought he was in charge.


25 posted on 07/01/2023 8:56:34 AM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: Sunsong
Get those F16s to Ukraine asap!

Ukraine and ppl like you have been crying about F16s for a year and a half, so why don't they have what they need?

26 posted on 07/01/2023 8:57:16 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

If Ukraine had kept all of the money that they snuck to the Biden crime family, they would have had enough money to buy the equipment they want.


27 posted on 07/01/2023 8:59:20 AM PDT by Highest Authority (DemonRats are pure EVIL)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
The counteroffensive struggles should be blamed on the person who ordered a counteroffensive.
28 posted on 07/01/2023 9:05:10 AM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024 )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

more shovels!
please stop sending weapons so both sides can stop dying...
ukes never getting territory back but its better to keep what u have


29 posted on 07/01/2023 9:05:56 AM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I heard that close to 700 Ukrainian soldiers surrendered yesterday. I know the numbers are usually inflated on both sides but that’s a lot of men even if it was half that number. Has anyone else heard about this?


30 posted on 07/01/2023 9:25:21 AM PDT by Rdct29 (The Democrats Are The New Nazi Party )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

We would do better if you would just give us guns, bullets, troops, planes, pilots, tanks, artillery, intel, logistics, and cash. Dont forget the cash. Plenty of cash.


31 posted on 07/01/2023 9:35:21 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: ChicagoConservative27

There may be some validity to this. However, until recently, the Ukes were fighting by the Soviet system, which emphasizes reliance on ‘the plan’ and discourages initiative at the lower levels. Tactical opportunities may be missed for fear of punishment for deviating from the plan if things don’t work out. Initiative must be taught to the tactical leaders from day one. It will take about 8-10 years to develop an officer with initiative and to move him up to a battalion command level. If you want flexible plans your staff officers must be taught flexibility in planning and it takes about 10 years to develop a staff officer that can do this effectively. And the higher level leadership must allow subordinates to exercise flexibility and initiative. The Ukes are still learning and developing these qualities.


32 posted on 07/01/2023 9:48:27 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt ( )
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To: blitz128

“corruption, soros, Biden”

I said nothing about the items mentioned above
So GET YOUR FACTS Straight.

I don’t want any U.S. dollars going to Ukraine be it a Democrat or Republican President. It’s none of our business. Let EU Countries deal with it.


33 posted on 07/01/2023 9:53:12 AM PDT by tennmountainman (FUJB)
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To: All

All aboard the Zelensky gravy train: an independent audit of US funding for Ukraine

BY HEATHER KAISER, ANYA PARAMPIL AND MAX BLUMENTHAL
thegrayzone.com
JUNE 27, 2023

In the absence of official scrutiny of Washington’s spending spree on Ukraine, The Grayzone conducted an independent audit of US funding for the country. We discovered a series of wasteful, highly unusual expenditures the Biden administration has yet to explain.
During a recent discussion with New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof, Administrator of the United States Agency for International Development (USAID), Samantha Power, touted her organization’s push to guarantee transparency for US taxpayer funds sent to Ukraine.

“We are involved in funding efforts at ensuring judicial integrity, which is intrinsically important to building Ukraine’s democracy and its integration plans to get into Europe,” Power declared, adding USAID’s work in Ukraine was “also really important in terms of assuring the taxpayer, the American taxpayer, that they’re resources are well spent.”

While innocuous on the surface, Power’s comments revealed a great deception the US government is currently waging against the American public. In the roughly 16 months since Russia’s February 2022 escalation of the Ukraine conflict, the US government has approved several multi-billion dollar spending packages to sustain the Kiev military’s fight against Moscow.

Though many Americans likely believe that US dollars allocated for Ukraine are spent directly on supplies for the war effort, the lead author of this report, Heather Kaiser, conducted a thorough review of Washington’s budget for the 2022 and 2023 fiscal year and discovered that is far from the case.

US taxpayers may be shocked to learn that as their families grappled with fears of Social Security’s looming insolvency, the Social Security Administration in Washington sent $4.48 million to the Kiev government in 2022 and 2023 alone. In another example of bizarre spending, USAID paid off $4.5 billion worth of Ukraine’s sovereign debt through payments made to the World Bank — all while Congress went to loggerheads over America’s ballooning national debt. (Western financial interests including BlackRock Inc. are among the largest holders of Ukrainian government bonds.)

Though it is nearly impossible to calculate the total sum of US tax dollars sent to Kiev, Kaiser was able to perform an independent audit of Washington’s proxy war in Ukraine through a careful search of open source data available on the US government’s official spending tracker.

Kaiser reviewed all the funding allocations in which Ukraine was listed as the “Place of Performance” for fiscal years 2022 and 2023. Additionally, she discovered supplementary funds were sent to Kiev by listing Ukraine as the “justification” for spending, rather than the location where the money was physically sent.

Calculating the total dollar amount that the US has given to Ukraine is incredibly challenging for multitude of reasons: there is a lag in reporting expenditures; covert money given by the CIA (Title 50 Covert Action) won’t be publicly disclosed; and direct military assistance in the form of military equipment is not calculated in the same manner as raw cash. The Pentagon recently admitted to an accounting error revised up to 6.2 billion dollars. Despite this, Kaiser submitted a request to the Department of Treasury asking them to disclose the total dollar amount of US taxpayer support for Ukraine. Treasury has not responded at the time of publication.

Though Kaiser was able to search through pages of reported spending, the US government has yet to conduct an official audit of its funding for Ukraine. What’s more, there is currently no limit to how much Washington can send to Kiev.

In the absence of dedicated official scrutiny of Washington’s spending in Ukraine, The Grayzone has produced an independent audit of US tax dollar allocation in the country.

Among the many troubling contracts we discovered was a $4.25 million payment from the Pentagon to a military diving contractor that a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee has described as a “fraudulent company.” The US government asserts the payment covered the company’s delivery of explosives equipment to Ukraine.

So how exactly was that money put to use? And why has Congress so far refused to implement any program to track these shady weapons deals?

Unfortunately, the “justification” for contracts like these often consists of just a brief paragraph — or worse, a single sentence. Little little information is available that documents precisely how the funds were spent down to the dollar and item.

Beneficiaries of USAID’s Ukraine aid: Polish NATO lobbyists, a private equity firm, rural Kenyans, a TV station in Toronto

snip.....rest on grayzone.com


34 posted on 07/01/2023 10:27:29 AM PDT by Liz (Vox Populi, Vox Dei (voice of the people is the voice of God))
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To: GOPJ; 2nd amendment mama; 4everontheRight; ADemocratNoMore; afraidfortherepublic; Aliska; ...

ping to post #34


35 posted on 07/01/2023 10:29:10 AM PDT by Liz (Vox Populi, Vox Dei (voice of the people is the voice of God))
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Send Biden, one way.


36 posted on 07/01/2023 10:43:19 AM PDT by boomop1 (term limits NOW)
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To: srmanuel
...without establishing air superiority which they never will without a modern well trained Air Force...

Even if we were willing to provide such equipment to Ukraine, they haven't got enough time left to train up pilots who can use it. They are also running out of men for their army.

Hunter-killer drone aircraft would be a strategic upset that would neutralize air power for everybody. It would likely eliminate the Russian advantage in artillery too. If we had them and were willing to give some to the Ukraine, it would change the outcome.

But we don't and we wouldn't give such equipment away if we did.

The Ukraine government is going to end up in villas in the south of France. Or in Florida.

37 posted on 07/01/2023 11:24:02 AM PDT by flamberge (It seemed like a good idea at the time.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
IF a country's military/civilian leadership base their future kinda-sorta counteroffensive planning on weapons or material that is not in-theater and not ready for use at the push off, then they are only (and have only) planned for that counteroffensive to fail.

And it did. Taking back territory in eastern Ukraine, that the Russians took initially, is not "winning." You push the map a few miles to the East, lose large amounts of equipment, men and most importantly, ammunition, and then complain that the West didn't provide enough of each ? And that's why Ukraine failed?

They planned to fail. All along. And they did.

How much of our US citizen taxpayer money does the Ukraine military "leadership" have in their private bank accounts now and in the future?


38 posted on 07/01/2023 11:41:34 AM PDT by Miguk
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To: flamberge

It’s amazing how many people in the country and especially here on FR don’t realize Ukraine is being asked to fight a war against an opponent that has a superior military but somehow with American weapons they will win , no questions the toughest of the Ukrainians but fighting Russia with inferior weapons is not a winning strategy


39 posted on 07/01/2023 12:07:24 PM PDT by srmanuel
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To: Liz
The Grayzone conducted an independent audit of US funding for the country (Ukraine). We discovered a series of wasteful, highly unusual expenditures the Biden administration has yet to explain. Among the many troubling contracts we discovered was a $4.25 million payment from the Pentagon to a military diving contractor that a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee has described as a “fraudulent company.” The US government asserts the payment covered the company’s delivery of explosives equipment to Ukraine.

Hey Liz - maybe someone has finally found one of Hunter's many hidden LLC's...

40 posted on 07/01/2023 12:25:46 PM PDT by GOPJ (BUD LIGHT - QUEER BEER - - - NOT WELCOME AT ANY 4TH OF JULY GATHERING.)
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